Outdated instruments

lefty2

Platinum Member
When it comes to power toms I used them back in the day because they were the norm and I didn't know any better. I don't mind the look actually, it's the positional limitations I dislike. I'm not a tall guy so a few inches make a huge difference. I used to have to angle power toms quite a bit in order to play them comfortably and this could be quite challenging especially with a 13x12.

I now I only have standard depth toms and I'm glad they are the norm again. I also happen to prefer the look of standard toms but it's mostly practical. I love to watch other people play power toms though!

My tastes in drums and cymbals are very simple. Give me a 4-piece in standard sizes with Zildjian A medium ride, New Beats and a couple of thin crashes and I'm good to go. It's timeless and I like that.
You took the words right out of my mouth I'm vertically challenged
 

pinstripe

Active Member
I recently pounced on a '90s Pearl Export kit completely unaware of the outdatedness of the "power tom" thing. I didn't even realize it had what would be considered power toms until I started fiddling with the Tom Angles and was puzzled by why I couldn't set them up to be relatively flat and low like the cool kids do. That's when it dawned on me that I had unwittingly bought the drum equivalent of a Kramer Focus 2000 or something along those lines. It's a great first set to learn on and I got a good deal on it, but I'll definitely be on the lookout for something with a more modern--which is to say traditional--configuration for my next set.
 

SomeBadDrummer

Platinum Member
Power toms. I can't believe I played them for 25 years they seemed so tall now sitting on top of the bass drum. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have shallow Toms
I hear you. My "shallow" toms are perfect, they are all semetrical (12x12, 13x13, 14x14, 16x16). But the bass drum is out of whack at 22 x 20 lol.
 

lefty2

Platinum Member
This is pretty much what I'm aiming at now. Classic and versatile.
I have a Ludwig 4 pc. downbeat set that's pretty cool I love the comfort level of 12"14" and 20" The 14x20 is easier to transport to
 

JimmyM

Platinum Member
And a road crew!

They look so much fun to play though!
For about 10 seconds. Sorry...worked with a dude who played great but used Norths and still has them as his only set to this day. Can't do it.
 

Janet Tambour

Junior Member
I agree. It's got points! Its neon pink! It has 5 knobs, 6 switches, and a kitchen stove switch! It has gold, chrome, and eggshell appointments! It's so confused and obnoxious and I LOVE IT!
Because its Neon pink doesn't that make it a girl's guitar? (Joking)
 

Janet Tambour

Junior Member
yep...there is nothing more "metal" than a bunch of Marshall stacks to my eyes...and ears usually

now-a-days, I will get to a gig, and see these "metal" guitarists setting up a PA monitor on a stand as an "amp", and it is such a let down....no matter what the sound...
Those bands should have banners printed of Marshal stacks that they can 'position' on the side of the stage for looks.
 

MrInsanePolack

Platinum Member
Because its Neon pink doesn't that make it a girl's guitar? (Joking)
Absolutely not!

Pink is a very powerful color. A guy holding a pink guitar might look funny until he rips a mean solo.

A man driving a pink racecar looks funny until he wins.

A boxer wearing pink shorts looks funny until he pummels his opponent.

If one military went to war carrying pink assault rifles, think of how humiliating it would be for the other military who was decimated by them.

I like pink. It's got power built into it. Kryptonite for "real men" if you will.

Those bands should have banners printed of Marshal stacks that they can 'position' on the side of the stage for looks.
Like this?

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One can purchase a "wall of Marshall stacks" shower curtain also.
 

Janet Tambour

Junior Member
Absolutely not!

Pink is a very powerful color. A guy holding a pink guitar might look funny until he rips a mean solo.

A man driving a pink racecar looks funny until he wins.

A boxer wearing pink shorts looks funny until he pummels his opponent.

If one military went to war carrying pink assault rifles, think of how humiliating it would be for the other military who was decimated by them.

I like pink. It's got power built into it. Kryptonite for "real men" if you will.


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One can purchase a "wall of Marshall stacks" shower curtain also.
Yes it is a very powerful color which is why girls were very happy to have it all to ourselves! (not seriously)

That is too funny I LOVE it!!!
 

GretschedHive

Silver Member
Man, I would love a pink guitar. Such a great color.

You with me on this, Bri?

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I think I've mentioned before that the toughest guy I ever knew in real life, a Navy Seal, used to enjoy going into the diviest of dive bars wearing his pink backback. When I asked him why, he smiled and said, "because I can."
 

JimmyM

Platinum Member
Man, I would love a pink guitar. Such a great color.

You with me on this, Bri?

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I think I've mentioned before that the toughest guy I ever knew in real life, a Navy Seal, used to enjoy going into the diviest of dive bars wearing his pink backback. When I asked him why, he smiled and said, "because I can."
Now you wanna talk "That Great Gretsch Sound?" That one's so great you don't even need to turn it on to hear its greatness! I hate their basses but I'd love to own a Gretsch guitar...maybe one of those Jets like Malcolm and Stevie Young.
 

Quai34

Junior Member
I play bass and drums, and I feel like the idea of "vintage" for sound is about the same in both worlds...I always hear about people wanting older drums/guitars for their sound

aesthetically, I do think that guitars and basses are more susceptible to choices there - re the pointy guitar thing - than drums b/c, over the years, other than some outlandish experiments like Trixon, North and Peavy drums, the drums themselves all look the same. I do see shell depth vs width sort of change with the times - power toms of the 80's; "standard" size toms of the 50's and 60's, that came back in the 2000 after power toms died out.

All of my drum purchases have always been for sound first, and looks second. I was lucky enough to be able to choose the look of most of my drum items as I ordered them new and custom

I did buy 2 basses for their looks. My 2000 Kramer Explorer bass, and a recent "gift" of a student level BC Rich Mockingbird bass. All of my other basses were purchased for sound and feel first
Me too, I'm not a bassist (yet? Well, drums lessons first this year!!!) But I bought 3 basses after spending a lot of time on bass fori (one forum, several form, comes from Latin, second déclinaison) as well but because I was not able to play them, I went for one more old style ala Fender (G&L L2000) with new features, plus one bass more modern style (Ibanez SR1200 XXV anniversary) but the last one was for look and mainly because we needed a 5 strings for Peter Gabriel's song Sledgehammer (Ibanez SR2650 in clear Blue Burst). I think they will be kind of a timeless look but besides drummers, no one will ever pay attention to that because drummers are the back stage position guys anyway, like keys players!!!
Ibanez link:
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Quai34

Junior Member
Thats cool. Not really a fan of the spider webs. What I really want is a pink Bich.
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In the end there will be 6-7 guitars/bass hanging in the corner around the drums. Currently there is a black Mockingbird and a blue Ibanez Mikro bass.
Well, I'm like you, I'm really like instruments, vintage or not, even if I don't play them... But after keys, I think the ones that I know how to play the most is drums....Hey, I just have to think about beat instead of beat plus notes!!
 

MrInsanePolack

Platinum Member
Well, I'm like you, I'm really like instruments, vintage or not, even if I don't play them... But after keys, I think the ones that I know how to play the most is drums....Hey, I just have to think about beat instead of beat plus notes!!
For the most part, yes, they will be decorative. I'm not going to go out and buy the most expensive versions of what I want either. They will all be functional instruments however, in tune and taken care of.

I'm not sure exactly what I want at this point. I have room to hang 5 more at most. There are just so many cool shapes and colors to choose from. Picking drums is way easier than guitars/basses.
 

Xstr8edgtnrdrmrX

Diamond Member
Those bands should have banners printed of Marshal stacks that they can 'position' on the side of the stage for looks.
Absolutely not!

Pink is a very powerful color. A guy holding a pink guitar might look funny until he rips a mean solo.

A man driving a pink racecar looks funny until he wins.

A boxer wearing pink shorts looks funny until he pummels his opponent.

If one military went to war carrying pink assault rifles, think of how humiliating it would be for the other military who was decimated by them.

I like pink. It's got power built into it. Kryptonite for "real men" if you will.


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One can purchase a "wall of Marshall stacks" shower curtain also.

yeah...I have heard that many groups from the "wall of Marshall" days were actually just doing this...

and if memory serves me, I think a guy on the TalkBass forum did a thread about the redundancy of that many speakers...like from a physics of sound viewpoint
 

Xstr8edgtnrdrmrX

Diamond Member
Now you wanna talk "That Great Gretsch Sound?" That one's so great you don't even need to turn it on to hear its greatness! I hate their basses but I'd love to own a Gretsch guitar...maybe one of those Jets like Malcolm and Stevie Young.

hell, I would love to have a White Falcon bass...only b/c I can't play guitar worth a crap, so it would be a waste to have that nice of a 6 string
 

Xstr8edgtnrdrmrX

Diamond Member
For the most part, yes, they will be decorative. I'm not going to go out and buy the most expensive versions of what I want either. They will all be functional instruments however, in tune and taken care of.

I'm not sure exactly what I want at this point. I have room to hang 5 more at most. There are just so many cool shapes and colors to choose from. Picking drums is way easier than guitars/basses.

it is funny for me that I am definitely a collector of things that I don't really use very much: sports cards and memorabilia (over 100,000), Dungeons and Dragons books and other media; flags...

but I can't bring myself to collect instruments just for the sake of collecting...I know many, many other people who have tons of instruments just for the sake of collecting, but I can't justify spending the money on an instrument that I won't use....the guitar player for my metal band has roughly 20 guitars at any given time, and only uses the same 2 or 3. The rest just sit in cases.

I stress out if I don't use any of my 5 basses in an even rotation

my brain works in really weird ways
 
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