Nylon Plastic Tension Rod Washers...

bobdadruma

Platinum Member
How many of you need to have them on every drum? (even if the rods already have metal washers on them)
I have to have them... I can tell right away when I play a snare or tom drum without them.
They seem to make tuning easier and also I feel that the sound of the drum is slightly affected by having that soft washer as a buffer between the tension rod and the hoop.
Am I Anal??? :)
 

oldrockdrummer

Senior Member
I agree have to have em. I think it makes the rim shoots feel more "woody" so to speak. Adds a little cushion doesn't feel like your hitting the side of a steel drum. I also think it makes the rim shoots sound a little deeper
 

bobdadruma

Platinum Member
Good, I'm not the only one who hears the snare rimshot difference and feels the tone of the toms when soft washers are on the drum.
I even install them on my bass drums.
I also hate that feeling when you can feel the metal on metal contact of a metal washer on a hoop while you are cranking up a rod on a snare.
Its like scratching a blackboard to me. :)
 

GruntersDad

Administrator - Mayor
Staff member
I have them for the reason that some of the rods won't turn as easy to tune as they do with the nylon or teflon ones. By the same token they can loosen just as easy but since I'm a nice gentle player this isn't a problem. I actually have them on all of my batter heads and also on the snare side heads on the snares.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
I'm opposite, I take them off. I do like how smooth it makes it feel for tuning. But I'm anal about wanting every vibration to pass to the shell and not get stopped somewhere. So who's more anal? I don't think I can tell by stick feel if a drum has them or not, never really tested for that. I'm impressed that you can tell a difference.
Man we do get into some minutia here don't we?
 

bobdadruma

Platinum Member
Grunt, you have to install them on every tension rod to get the full benefit.
You have only completed half the job :)
I am joking but I am serious at the same time.
 

bobdadruma

Platinum Member
I'm opposite, I take them off. I do like how smooth it makes it feel for tuning. But I'm anal about wanting every vibration to pass to the shell and not get stopped somewhere. So who's more anal? I don't think I can tell by stick feel if a drum has them or not, never really tested for that. I'm impressed that you can tell a difference.
Man we do get into some minutia here don't we?
Wow, You remove the synthetic washers. Crazy!
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
It grew out of the lug gasket tests that I've seen here. I take them off too. No lug gaskets, no soft washers...Give me lugs on lacquer and metal on metal at the hoops for maximum vibration transference. Totally anal.
 

bobdadruma

Platinum Member
I don't like lug gaskets either. I take them off. I also hate suspension mounts on high toms.
I just feel that the shell works better if the hoop is isolated from it with soft washers.
 

wildbill

Platinum Member
I've only got them on one drum, and that is the cheapest new drum I've bought. All the rest have metal washers.
Can't say it makes a big difference to me, except that it just seems nicer having plastic as a buffer for threads that are tightened down.
 

Bo Eder

Platinum Member
I swear you guys are gonna make me try this. I've honestly never noticed a difference between metal washers or nylon washers. I do know I like to have A washer, but it's always been a metal one.

I'm with Bob on the disdain for suspension mounts. I think it's alot of unnecessary weight to be carrying around for not much gain. I've had perfectly resonating toms with mounts drilled into them, of both varieties: the Pearl "in the shell" and the Ludwig L-arm type.
 

Dutch

Senior Member
I've always had them on my snares, but am currently trying the Canopus leather washers on one snare. Not yet sure if the $15 was a total waste of money or not...

Dutch
 

Deathmetalconga

Platinum Member
It grew out of the lug gasket tests that I've seen here. I take them off too. No lug gaskets, no soft washers...Give me lugs on lacquer and metal on metal at the hoops for maximum vibration transference. Totally anal.
Better to be anal retentive than anal expulsive, I always say.
 

bobdadruma

Platinum Member
I've always had them on my snares, but am currently trying the Canopus leather washers on one snare. Not yet sure if the $15 was a total waste of money or not...

Dutch
I looked at the Canopus washers on YouTube. I don't think that they are a replacement for plastic.
They seem to be fragile and they will become chewed up quickly.
keep us posted on their quality and function.
 

Dutch

Senior Member
I looked at the Canopus washers on YouTube. I don't think that they are a replacement for plastic.
They seem to be fragile and they will become chewed up quickly.
keep us posted on their quality and function.
Well, so far so good. I have them on a 14" x 5.5" Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute snare, will have a second practice night tonight, and all seems good. They are of course softer than the plastic washers, but are a bit rougher so seem to provide some grip to the rods.

But I'm not a hard hitter (we play jazzy folksy stuff), rarely ever do rimshots, and can't hear the difference between having these washers versus the plastic ones, so I guess it was $15 wasted. Ah well, now I know...

Dutch
 

mandrew

Gold Member
I have tried metal and the hard nylon. I now keep the nylon, as it gives just a touch of color if coordinated with other gaskets on the drum, and it makes tuning MUCH smoother.
 
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