New "WaFARER" line from INDe Drums

Rattlin' Bones

Gold Member
Yes actually I bought one with 18x10 kick in INDe blue finish. I've been wanting a kit that easy to transport. I bought a beautiful Canopus Ash kit just a very short while ago with 18x10 kick. Took to practice once. Sounds great looks killer, but larger 16x15 floor tom isn't fo me. What ease of portability I gain with small 18x10 kick I lose with 16x15 tom. It's a beautiful Canopus kit and very musical (tuning is wide ranging) but I didn't count on 16x15 kick being so, well, big. So it's for sale and Josh's new Wayfarer arrives tomorrow.

Now - anybody want a killer Canopus kit at a bargain price?
 

wildbill

Platinum Member
Funny - just from an aesthetics viewpoint, shallow bass drums don't bother me at all. I kind of like them.

The stubby floor toms just don't look right at all to me though.

But from a practical standpoint, if you're hauling them around,
I can see where having a floor tom that's deeper than your bass drum
could be an annoyance.
 

charliedrummer

Senior Member
Can someone explain the reason behind the aluminum shells in the Waferer line (along with Kalamazoo snares) having riveted seams? They're very noticeable and to me, detract from the beautiful aluminum finish.
 

Rattlin' Bones

Gold Member
A riveted shell is probably way less expensive. With a seamless shell you have to punch and shape the shell out of a single piece of metal with machines, which seems way more expensive.

Can someone explain the reason behind the aluminum shells in the Waferer line (along with Kalamazoo snares) having riveted seams? They're very noticeable and to me, detract from the beautiful aluminum finish.
 

Push pull stroke

Platinum Member
A riveted shell is probably way less expensive. With a seamless shell you have to punch and shape the shell out of a single piece of metal with machines, which seems way more expensive.
This is true. Although with aluminum, you can stamp it with a press, versus copper/brass which have to be hand-spun. Oriollo has some good video of both processes.
 

Rattlin' Bones

Gold Member
Yup I watched the Oriollo videos. Great videos. Until then I had no idea how them made seamless shells. A lot of the old Rogers and Slingerland metal shells ate riveted with seams btw.
 

Rattlin' Bones

Gold Member
You know, aluminum shells can be as hit-or-miss as wood shells. Which I didn't think about until I bought a Sakae aluminum snare. At first I liked it, but side-by-side to an Acrolite it much different. Had a lot more ring and perhaps "character". Louder. Ideal for some people but wasn't what I was looking for. Two seamless aluminum shells with two completely different sounds. I'm not sure why. Thickness of shell? Bearing edges? Those are only two variables I can think of.

I’m waiting to see how someone who gets the aluminum kit likes the sound.
 

Push pull stroke

Platinum Member
You know, aluminum shells can be as hit-or-miss as wood shells. Which I didn't think about until I bought a Sakae aluminum snare. At first I liked it, but side-by-side to an Acrolite it much different. Had a lot more ring and perhaps "character". Louder. Ideal for some people but wasn't what I was looking for. Two seamless aluminum shells with two completely different sounds. I'm not sure why. Thickness of shell? Bearing edges? Those are only two variables I can think of.
Hardware mass and placement can make a difference, as can alloy and the working process for the metal. But I agree, bearing edge and shell thickness are probably at least as important in determining final sound.
 

Rattlin' Bones

Gold Member
OK I've been playing around with my new Wayfer kit this weekend:

Color and finish are A+. It's a dark blue finish that looks very classy. It's not bright it's very understated and classy. Check out all the pics.

Tuning is pretty easy on toms. I did go with a Remo Amb for floor tom batter. It sounded better than stock Aquarian head. The smaller tom sounded fine with stock Aquarian.

I used the stock heads on kick. At first I tried a PS1 batter but it was way too limiting. INDe stock batter head is an Aquarian Force I with the clear vented muffling ring. Works better. Now I'm getting a good sound from kick. It's not a huge boom and not much sustain. But you can hear the kick now. For our soft jazz group it should work well.

The hardware is excellent. The kick drum spurs threw me a bit at first. I was frustrated it was hard to set them up and I was thinking at a gig it's gonna be a major hassle. But then I discovered enclosed hardware includes 5 very cool looking INDe styled wing nuts that fit onto exposed screw on each kick drum spur plate. And 3 others for tom. You loosen a square drum key screw, insert spurs, and then screw wing nut on one exposed screw end and then tighten the wing nut. Yeah that works! The other hardware is really first rate and gig/road worthy. Ain't nothing cheap at all.

The tom rims are heavy, which helps with taming the thin shells. Seem like a perfect combination.

The shells are very thin and light. Like very very lite. Perfect for me. Ands yes they are musical and sing notes.

The kick hoops are not very wide, so your kick pedal is closer to drum head. That means you can't lift front of kick very high off floor. Gotta keep it almost level. I'm used to maybe 1/4" or 1/2" front lift off floor. That puts chain right up against batter head. The hoops must be 1/4" or 1/2" shorter than what I'm used to. This also makes the spurs spread wayyyyy wide. The little 18" kick takes up an inch or two more with that spur super-spread than if hoops were wider.

You also install kick hoop beveled end (which is fairly sharp angle) so it is contacting heads. INDe makes their hoops this way so that the hoops makes minimal contact with shell and head, unlike if you were putting squared edge against head. I had to call Josh about that. I'm used to beveled/ contoured edge on the outside and not on the contact edge.

They sound great, look great, great hardware, are lite weight, and can be moved around easily. Great product. Our next few gigs use house backline kits, so may be a few weeks before I actually get to try the Wayfarer out live on stage.

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Winston_Wolf

Platinum Member
Beautiful kit and a beautiful color. Inde Blue is my favorite of their finishes.

But I think Josh needs to make a different size spur for small bass drums. I'm admittedly not a fan of gullwing spurs at all anyway, but those spurs look comically large on that drum.
 

Rattlin' Bones

Gold Member
Yes smaller spurs would be preferable. They are bit whimsical looking, aren't they.

Beautiful kit and a beautiful color. Inde Blue is my favorite of their finishes.

But I think Josh needs to make a different size spur for small bass drums. I'm admittedly not a fan of gullwing spurs at all anyway, but those spurs look comically large on that drum.
 
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