New drums vs old drums
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Chris Whitten
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In the antiques world anything up to 20 years old is 'retro', up to 40 years old is 'vintage' and after that 'antique'.
My N&C's are 30 years old, I wouldn't call them retro or vintage. The 1960's Camco set would be 'vintage' I think.
My N&C's are 30 years old, I wouldn't call them retro or vintage. The 1960's Camco set would be 'vintage' I think.
dwsabianguy
Senior Member
+1 for floor toms. On Yamaha kits I think they also generally sound better.
But I've never had an issue with my Nouveau lugs, and they've actually helped me nest the 12-piece Cygnus kit in times when we haven't had a 15-passenger van.
I'm pretty sure my lignins are crystalizing at this very moment.
jda
Diamond Member
No!.......I mean to adjust angle/position of either the other moves- they're attached
like a table/lamp combo
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timmdrum
Gold Member
Ah. I don't find that problematic. On my rehearsal kit, my hanging FT hovers over one of the stand feet for stability. If I need to move the ride alone, I pivot the stand on the foot under the drum- the cymbal moves much more side-to-side than the drum, which barely moves. If I need to move the drum alone, then I pivot the stand on one of the other feet, depending on which way the drum needs to move- this time, the cymbal moves minimally. That said, I hardly ever need to move them- set it and forget it, unless someone bumps into something.
My gig kit is on a rack, and the hanging FT is still mounted to the same post as my ride, but I don't ever have to move them; position is set and memory locked.
I don't dislike floor toms, but it's nice to not have the legs in the way of my feet and other stands.
yammyfan
Senior Member
They were oddly hard to position, and the stand they required made it challenging to position the cymbal stands I used on the right side. I had 14 and 16 inch toms on that kit.
Additionally, they bounced when played which made it challenging to play floor tom grooves sometimes, and it was unnerving to see that 16" tom bounce up and down. The mount was the same one used on the 8" tom. Yikes.
The previous owner outfitted the 16" with legs which seemed odd to me when I bought the kit but I soon understood why. I abandoned the stand and used the legs most of the time after that. The 14" remained suspended which is why I almost never used it.
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Chris Whitten
Platinum Member
Most of my kits have hanging toms. It's a pain on the bigger toms. I prefer floor toms with legs.
I haven't had a problem with movement or wobble, just floor toms are easier to set up and position.
I haven't had a problem with movement or wobble, just floor toms are easier to set up and position.
Cmdr. Ross
Platinum Member
This is me as well. While many drummers pine over the vintage gear, I for one don't feel it does what the newer stuff does. Anything over 2000 or newer will be perfect for you & your needs.
jda
Diamond Member
what year's your "vintage" Boz 60s 90s 40s?.
harryconway
Platinum Member
Both excellent choices, although quite different (in my opinion)
C&C seems to be building mostly new drums with vintage vibe. Center lugs, wood choices (maple, mahogany, poplar, gum), reinforcement rings ...... all very Gretsch, Slingerland, Rogers, Ludwig - ish.New Yamaha's ...... definitely modern drums.
I guess further info needed. What's your current kit? What type of music do you play most? Are you looking to own more than 1 kit (keep your old kit and add something new, etc)?
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wildbill
Platinum Member
What's your old kit?
Musicsucks
Member
tbh- I think my question has been answered. There have been advances, but not to the point that I would be doing myself a disservice by buying an older kit.
BUT, this is fun and I’m happy for more advice. My current kit is an Epek MLX. It was a great kit and it doesn’t owe me anything, but it’s seen plenty of use and abuse and has been stored poorly for a long time. I bought it as an 8pce and turned the biggest Tom into a second kick drum, so I had a mix and match tiny jazz kit or a more reasonable 1up/1down rock kit (and sometimes a real fun setup with an EMAD’d floor tom to the left of the hihats).
I’m not looking to own more than one kit. I have a pretty diverse set of musical interests- I just played a surprisingly fun show with an accordion-fronted pop cover band. Looking to get involved with a Radiohead-esq band. I’d love to get back into practicing, transcribing some jazz drum solos and generally getting my hands and ears back.
Frankly, its silly for me to even think of getting a real fancy drumset. If/when I get a new kit it’s probably going to live in a shared rehearsal space (#apartmentlife), and the kit and I will be lucky to see a couple of gigs per year. But, it’s hard not to let the mind wander.
classikdrummr
Well-known Member
I have two new kits and 1 80's Kit. Al Tama.
They all have their good points, And No bad points.
The new drums have cool features to increase resonance like the star Mount system and Rubber linings on the Lugs, etc. Of the three kits , i play the most $$$ expensive one the most . Starclassic Walnut Birch. It comes down to what you want to play IMO. The older drums are probably better for small Gigs as who cares if they get trashed.
They all have their good points, And No bad points.
The new drums have cool features to increase resonance like the star Mount system and Rubber linings on the Lugs, etc. Of the three kits , i play the most $$$ expensive one the most . Starclassic Walnut Birch. It comes down to what you want to play IMO. The older drums are probably better for small Gigs as who cares if they get trashed.
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