Need help finding a new ride

sage32

Senior Member
Hey guys I need some advice in looking for a new ride cymbal.

I currently play a Sabian AAX Stage 20" traditional finish. It's a wonderful versatile cymbal with good stick definition and decent crashability if struck hard at high volumes.

What I'm looking for is something a little lighter and more sensitive with faster attack. I'm essentially looking for a dual function crash/ride that has fast enough attack to be used as a crash with just enough stick definition to not get lost in the wash like most crash/rides. I also want something on the warmer end of the spectrum that is shimmery and a little glassy. I currently have a Sabian Vault Crash brilliant finish that is very glassy with a pleasantly warm sustain and I would like to find a ride that complements that sound.

I play alternative rock and indie and I like laying into the ride like a crash and filling up the space during the louder sections.

The Sweet Ride was the first place I looked, and since then the Sabian AA Bash Ride, Evolution Ride, and Istanbul Agop Xist have caught my eye. I'm definitely looking to buy used unless it's the Istanbul Xist which I've found is an amazing bargain for a brand new professional cymbal.

I appreciate any advice and recommendations you guys have!
 

Winegums

Silver Member
Definitition and crashability are on opposite ends of the spectrum. Definition means less wash, Crashability means more wash.
 

sage32

Senior Member
Definitition and crashability are on opposite ends of the spectrum. Definition means less wash, Crashability means more wash.
Yeah that's why I said I need just enough definition to not get lost in the wash. I want a cymbal that is overall a washy ride but not completely washy like a crash. For example the Zildjian Sweet Ride is often considered the happy medium between crashability and definition, whereas I hear most cymbals that are labelled "crash ride" tend to have quite little definition and easily get consumed by the wash.
 

sage32

Senior Member
Check out an HHX or AAX 21" Raw bell dry ride. I've been looking for a ride that is similar to what you're describing and the HHX RBDR is what I'm saving up to buy. I currently have an AAX stadium ride that is a bit too defined and loud for softer rock/classic rock.


HHX RBDR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HYY5qDgNrw


Sabian RBDR comparision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0niJKbbUNw
Yeah that's why I'm seriously considering the Sabian AA Bash Ride 21". According to Sabian, the Bash Ride is actually the crash/ride version of the Raw Bell Dry Ride. The standard weight RBDR shown in the videos you posted is still too heavy for what I'm looking for.

Here's the Bash Ride 21". Notice it looks just like the RBDR..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSjzX2O2cc
 

Winegums

Silver Member
Yeah that's why I'm seriously considering the Sabian AA Bash Ride 21". According to Sabian, the Bash Ride is actually the crash/ride version of the Raw Bell Dry Ride. The standard weight RBDR shown in the videos you posted is still too heavy for what I'm looking for.

Here's the Bash Ride 21". Notice it looks just like the RBDR..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSjzX2O2cc
If that's what you're looking for I'd say go for it!

It's a bit too washy for my tastes and has weak definition on the bow. It feels like 65% crash and 35% ride. I wouldn't use it as a main ride personally but I would love it as a secondary ride. I feel that the bow sound will get lost in the wash of the other instruments.
 
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