My old band wants me back.

A J

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The lead guy texted me and wants me back. The 1-drummer format just ain't working. They want the second drummer.

About a year ago, I left them for many reasons. We were a 2-drummer band and perhaps the best in the county. Despite my departure, I've maintained a friendship with the lead guy.

After many texts, I finally showed up at their Thursday night practice, and stayed about an hour. I ain't gonna lie. It was fun, even though I was just listening. It was like I'd never left. We were harassing one another. Everyone was laughing. We were friends. Overall, they sounded VERY good; better than when I was a part of the band.

That said... Many of the reasons why I departed in the first place still remained. I made it clear that I have no intention to ever be in their band again but enjoy watching and hanging around with them on occasion. After I departed, the lead guy sent a text thanking me for attending. I reciprocated. Weird situation.
 
Doesn't sound weird to me. From what I can tell, you're a well grounded guy with a good sense of fairness who will not generally tolerate overt bull :poop:.

That description fits a guy I'd like as a bandmate as would most folks, I'd bet.

With delineated boundaries, you may be able to offer your services as a sub or just enjoy yukking it up as part of the audience. I see no reason to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
 
With a 2-drummer band do you mean you were both playing simultaneously or alternating?

For the first 6 months I did solely percussion. The next 18 months I was drumming alongside the other guy about 80% of the time.

Most songs we played drums simultaneously. He and I worked out different arrangements. We had very different styles, so we tried to arrange songs where we'd put our best foot forward. In every song, one guy would take the "lead" role. All in all, it worked pretty well.

The other drummer was able to do some things I couldn't. He could do super fast fills. I was better at 1/4 note and 16th note grooves while he was better at 8th note ones. I noticed that one of the original tunes, they had to slow it down so he could play it with 8th notes.
 
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Doesn't sound weird to me. From what I can tell, you're a well grounded guy with a good sense of fairness who will not generally tolerate overt bull :poop:.

That description fits a guy I'd like as a bandmate as would most folks, I'd bet.

With delineated boundaries, you may be able to offer your services as a sub or just enjoy yukking it up as part of the audience. I see no reason to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

I left the band last year on a good note. I gave them plenty of notice and finished all scheduled gigs. I still keep pretty close contact with the lead guy. Just last month he was all upset about a neighbor's property line and asked me to come over and check it out. After some study, I was able to convince him it was accurate. He was relieved.

I genuinely like the guys in the band. During my visit we were harassing one another just like old times. That said, all the reasons why I left the band in the first place were still there. I'd much rather be the guy that stops by and visits a practice and actually being in that band.
 
For the first 6 months I did solely percussion. The next 18 months I was drumming alongside the other guy about 80% of the time.

Most songs we played drums simultaneously. He and I worked out different arrangements. We had very different styles, so we tried to arrange songs where we'd put our best foot forward. In every song, one guy would take the "lead" role. All in all, it worked pretty well.
That is pretty cool but I guess it takes practice to avoid flamming?
 
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That is pretty cool but I guess it takes practice to avoid flamming?

We did some "flamming", especially with the snare backbeat. For us it worked out OK. He had a very light backbeat and mine was heavy. Oftentimes, I'd keep the beat going while he played complex fills and added "color". Having me maintaining the groove allowed him to stretch the fills and be able to come back exactly back to the groove.

Pro drummers are probably reading this right now and doing face palms! In a nutshell, it took two of us to do what one of you pros can do alone. :)
 
... I still keep pretty close contact with the lead guy. Just last month he was all upset about a neighbor's property line and asked me to come over and check it out. After some study, I was able to convince him it was accurate. He was relieved.

What?!? You're a surveyor too? Or do you have a GPS and know how to work it? A buddy of mine is a land surveyor in S.E. Michigan and I've always been enamored with the profession - me being a measurement specialist and all. He says that surveyor's tapes have gone the way of the Carolina Parakeet and they use GPS exclusively. I questioned the uncertainty of the new tools vs. the old ones - he says his enhanced GPS is capable of measuring any point on earth to within an area the size of a golf ball, or maybe a tennis ball if some of the satellites are obscured.
 
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"Many of the reasons why I departed in the first place still remained."

Admire from a distance then.

Don't look back. Life too short to deal with bull schnitzel.
 
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For years a local country rock band Bonesteel ruled the area in which i wanted to be an addition for a time..you know..the Allman brothers thing but it never happened. I've rarely seen double drummer bands back in the day but Slaughter row was one that was a powerhouse. I still entertain thoughts of doing this. Wish I'd heard your band.
 
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What?!? You're a surveyor too? Or do you have a GPS and know how to work it? A buddy of mine is a land surveyor in S.E. Michigan and I've always been enamored with the profession - me being a measurement specialist and all. He says that surveyor's tapes have gone the way of the Carolina Parakeet and they use GPS exclusively. I questioned the uncertainty of the new tools vs. the old ones - he says his enhanced GPS is capable of measuring any point on earth to within an area the size of a golf ball, or maybe a tennis ball if some of the satellites are obscured.

No. I'm not a surveyor... not even close!

In Northwest Michigan's Lake County, much of the land was surveyed into what looks like giant cities complete with roads, lots and easements. This all took place over 100 years ago. So the vast forest you see actually looks like downtown Chicago on a map. Not all land is like this, but the ones closer to town are.

All I did is walk the land in question. Later when I got home, my wife pulled up an app called "On X Hunt". It shows all those easements, lots and roads. From the app, we were able to determine that the neighbor's structures were indeed on the right spot. Whether they are there legally with permits is another story. The county building department would know that.
 
"Many of the reasons why I departed in the first place still remained."

Admire from a distance then.

Don't look back. Life too short to deal with bull schnitzel.

That's exactly what I'm doing: "admiring from a distance." I'm perfectly happy with attending an occasional practice, listening to some tunes and joking around at break. I don't want to be in the band though. I don't even want to fill in.
 
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For years a local country rock band Bonesteel ruled the area in which i wanted to be an addition for a time..you know..the Allman brothers thing but it never happened. I've rarely seen double drummer bands back in the day but Slaughter row was one that was a powerhouse. I still entertain thoughts of doing this. Wish I'd heard your band.

The 2-drummer thing happened gradually. At first, I was solely hand percussion. The most important thing was the 2 drummers getting along well. Everything else flows from that. In a 2-drummer format oftentimes you have to hold back and let the other guy shine. It's a lot like the relationship between 2 guitar players. You gotta take turns playing lead. Most of the time, I took on the role of the "rhythm guitar player."
 
Remain friends and support them. That’s the best thing.
Agreed. Being friends is fine. Being band mates... not so much. I like the guys. I just don't want to work with them.

Backyard BBQs: Yes
Being in the audience: Yes
Going fishing together: Yes
Gigging together: Nope
 
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Agreed. Being friends is fine. Being band mates... not so much. I like the guys. I just don't want to work with them.

Backyard BBQs: Yes
Being in the audience: Yes
Going fishing together: Yes
Gigging together: Nope

I like to say that I've ended every band I've every band been with on good terms (except for one). This REALLY comes in handy in a small town.
 
I like to say that I've ended every band I've every band been with on good terms (except for one). This REALLY comes in handy in a small town.

Yeah; and I live in that proverbial "small town". Everyone knows everyone else. That's what I like about it, but there's a downside as often you have to maintain some loose friendships just to keep the peace. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate any of these guys. I just attended his son's graduation open house last week. Just yesterday, I suggested using the other drummer to fill in for a vacancy I'd heard of. We're still friendly and get along well.

It's just that I've been in a band with these guys for 2 years. There are too many things that I just can't live with:
- The constant push to be "famous"
- Taking too many unpaid "exposure" gigs
- A complex PA that nobody could ever work right
- Having to spend money all all sorts of crap I didn't want: in ear monitors, large floor monitors, etc... Dumb stuff..
- Pot smoking affecting band decisions
 
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