Music scene rebounded?

Larry

"Uncle Larry"
Would you say the live music scene around you has rebounded since the lockdowns?

Let's hear your perspective. I have none at this time.
 
Maybe?

Or is it just that venues are having live music again and it’s just getting back to the normal? I think this is a honey-moon knee-jerk reaction because everybody is so happy to feel “normal” again.
 
I've played the most shows this year than I ever have.....but most of them have been musicals. There's only one that one could call a "normal bar" gig, but that was a casino gig with a tribute band. I haven't played in a bar since 2019.
 
We didn't really shut down much here. I think the casinos got to open before the bars and clubs if I remember correctly. Thier venues took that advantage and ran with it. From what I hear they're booming, but we are loosing independent spots all over
 
Yes I'd say definitely - people's enthusiasm is up- way up- it's just that now everything else is screwed up..
The theme seems to be Build Back smaller.
People's enthusiasm is so up they're throwing hard objects at the artists they pay to go see and hurting them.
 
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I'd say things are pretty much back to normal, but normal is different than it used to be. It seems quite a few venues have either stopped live music completely, or have gone to acoustic trios, duos and singles instead of full bands.

As an example, two well known music venues in the area are just doing food now; Jiggs's in Butler, and St. Moritz in Sparta. I played both venues many times. Covid convinced both owners to stop dealing with bands completely. Less expense, less headaches, more profit. A shame, of course, for musicians.
 
I don't personally know anyone with more fun money & free time than they did 3 yrs ago. Fewer places to practice/play too, but this has been a problem since the 2008 Crash, just glaring now
 
Places to play original music were already dying in my neck of the woods before COVID. I'm in three bands, two of which play originals and therefore almost never gig unless we drive hundreds of miles to Seattle, at which point we're losing money to play. The third band is a cover band full of retirees and we play almost every weekend in the summer, often twice a weekend. So in that sense, yeah, live music has rebounded, but not the live music I'd rather be playing.
 
We aim for 50-60 a year and we're pretty much back to 'normal'......
2019 - 57
2020 - 9 ( we had 55 booked )
2021 - 23 (June to Dec)
2022 - 44 (A few venues never reopened)
2023 - 56
 
Nationally, the bands that play big venues are getting record crowds and Son of Vistalite Black believes the amphitheaters (sheds) are also hosting more shows than ever. Suddenly, Barenaked Ladies, The Cure and Boy George are playing the big venues off the interstates.

SoVB frequents club shows by touring metal acts (800 to 1,200 capacity here), and has witnessed a significant uptick in attendance over the past year for things like Amon Amarth, Clutch and Nekrogoblikon.

 
Would you say the live music scene around you has rebounded since the lockdowns?
The large venues are definitely back.

For smaller bands, playing smaller venues, there are a lot fewer opportunities to play loud electric music in bars and a lot more opportunities to play semi-acoustic music in restaurants or in bars that serve a lot of food.
The shows are earlier, the music is quieter, there's less alcohol served, and the audiences are more mixed, demographically.
If there are any drums at all, the drummer is usually playing with brushes. A lot of venues won't allow a drum kit because they don't trust drummers to keep the volume under control, and they don't want to give up the floor space.

Which is why I've been spending a lot more time working on my brush playing.
 
Not sure what it was like before the gov. shutdown. I wasn't playing then, but there's a lot of live music here. Marina season is wide open and there are quite a few of them. One has 2 bands on Saturdays. Indoor clubs have some sorta music every night. Mostly acoustic thru the week.

What was surprising is to see that the live music followers aren't very young. And the crowd isn't growing in numbers as time progresses.
 
Our little bar scene here is pretty much back to normal. Most places that had live music before, have resumed. Biggest change is more places are having bands play from 7 to 11, when they used to be 8 to midnight. Very few places open till 1 AM any more. Our local small casino hasn't resumed having live music yet, tho I've heard rumors they play to remodel the stage area in order to resume live music at some point in the future.

(Full disclosure, we booked that gig whenever we could, cuz its local, but lots of bands wouldn't book it as they were super strict about volume, going so far as to have an employee running around with a db meter. So it wasn't a fun gig. Hopefully with the remodel, the stage won't be so close to the bar that volume won't be as big a concern.)

It does seem like there are more places for solo/duo acts since Covid. Restaurants and small bars that didn't have live music before...so that is a good thing. Not for me, but live music is better than DJs. (I'm not bitter about the gig we lost last weekend to a DJ, nope, not at all)
 
I'm not so sure the music business was very strong around my area before the 'thing' happened...so here is hoping for a growth...but I am cautiously pessimistic as I don't see $ flow happening around the economy to allow non-critical businesses such as entertainment to grow...just a tightening of attempts to keep taxable property values maximized while bad commercial property investments falter and value is attempted to be recaptured by increasing demand - by demanding workers return and justify the property investments made by the very company that employs them.

Real issue is that the perpetual tightening of resources built into our practices strangle out the things that motivate our work in the first place. We need room to spend in order to feed this consumptive model...room that is not allowed the closer to unsustainable pressured situations we strain to go.

I hate to suggest it, but with the taxable population reducing while the population ages and few in the successive generations to compensate, I would move my earning potential away from disposable industries...while looking at controls to prevent supply side manipulation as a response to demands for basic living resources at the lower end of the pay curve...maybe a min wage based on GDP instead of being based on legislation?...with strong independent watchdog reporters of GDP?...and consumer liquidity preservation measures to keep the economy moving? - reality seems to favor a basic living income model with greed/fear controls as the approach to reduce the maximum suffering.
 
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...I don't see $ flow happening around the economy to allow non-critical businesses such as entertainment to grow..."
I don't disagree, but to me it seems that an aging population and the clampdown on drunk driving probably have more to do with why there are fewer opportunities to play bars these days. People are still willing to shell out big bucko$ to see name acts in large venues, or listen to acoustic music over dinner. There just aren't as many people going out drinking till 2:00 am these days. The bulk of the audience is too old, and the youngsters are under so much pressure they need to keep a lid on things. Times have changed.
 
I'm not so sure the music business was very strong around my area before the 'thing' happened...so here is hoping for a growth...but I am cautiously pessimistic as I don't see $ flow happening around the economy to allow non-critical businesses such as entertainment to grow...just a tightening of attempts to keep taxable property values maximized while bad commercial property investments falter and value is attempted to be recaptured by increasing demand - by demanding workers return and justify the property investments made by the very company that employs them.

Real issue is that the perpetual tightening of resources built into our practices strangle out the things that motivate our work in the first place. We need room to spend in order to feed this consumptive model...room that is not allowed the closer to unsustainable pressured situations we strain to go.

I hate to suggest it, but with the taxable population reducing while the population ages and few in the successive generations to compensate, I would move my earning potential away from disposable industries...while looking at controls to prevent supply side manipulation as a response to demands for basic living resources at the lower end of the pay curve...maybe a min wage based on GDP instead of being based on legislation?...with strong independent watchdog reporters of GDP?...and consumer liquidity preservation measures to keep the economy moving? - reality seems to favor a basic living income model with greed/fear controls as the approach to reduce the maximum suffering.
Interesting analysis, but could it also be the kids aren't interested in spending their rising wages to watch Boomers play "Mustang Sally?"
 
Interesting analysis, but could it also be the kids aren't interested in spending their rising wages to watch Boomers play "Mustang Sally?"
I really think this is a major reason. Quite simply, most "bar" bands aren't great. There was a time when bars would have a band, any band, just to have a band. I used to gig 3-4 times a week with bands that I couldn't believe anyone would want to hear, but we got paid!
But now, unless it's a good band, it's easier to have a DJ.

And while the drunk driver laws play into it, I think the much, much biggest aspect is online dating apps and other online material that appeals to males.

It used to be going to cars, clubs, whatever was pretty much a primary way to meet a potential mate. Or at least pick up a temporary mate for the evening. (I met my wife at a club). The original concept of bars and clubs was to provide a social outlet for people to come together and hang out/meet people and satisfy their needs for social interactions.

Now one can sit at home and swipe left/right or however, it works. Or chat online. Or game online and chat with other gamers. or message people on any number of apps. And if all else fails watch a free clip of "ah-em" and get a temporary satisfaction.

No having to go pay a cover charge, buy expensive drinks, or whatever. People can fulfill their desires for social interaction from their couch.
 
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