Maybe I am old but I just don’t understand this

Stroman

Platinum Member
Revisiting this thread. I think it *can* be useful for a person to come here and talk about this kind of stuff, and it isn't always about using the power of social media to bully a manufacturer or dealer. Remember the thread where the guy thought Roland should replace or repair his module because he hit it and broke a part? Most people said, nah, that's on you, and he got a chance to see it from another perspective.

Sometimes people really do need to talk things out. With their cronies. At the barber shop. ;)
 

wraub

Well-known member
Hi, I'm the new guy who asks dumb questions. I like to learn things, and drums and drumming offer much to learn.
For me, part of learning things is threads on boards like this.
If someone has a good or bad experience, I want to know about it. It may help me make a similar decision someday. Also, for things I don't know about I'd rather ask than wonder. So far, asking has gotten me drums and cymbals that are great for me to learn on and grow with for years, which not asking had not accomplished.

I know a fair bit about a fair bit, but I freely admit I don't know even more, and reading someone else's experiences with a product, and a company's response to same, can be very helpful in making a buying decision, especially on a budget. I can't afford to spend a big chunk of cash on essentially recreational stuff, so research on product quality and company support means a lot. I did this recently when looking for a compact multi-pedal power supply for guitar effects. Asking a lot of dumb questions got me exactly what I wanted.

I also believe in trying to help others- I look up info, threads, videos that could help a poster in a situation where they could use all the info available.
I posted in another forum providing info on incredibly rare bass pickups, providing info on the builder, his history, and even recording sound files for reference.

I've been the helpful one, and I've been the one needing help. This is why I choose to frequent boards such as this one. I may post more dumb questions, and I will sincerely apologize here for it, but I want to learn all I can about everything that interests me. If another person, perhaps with more experience, can inform me with that experience, I'm all for it, even if the experience is a negative one.
 

gish

Senior Member
I saw a thread recently where a forum member was critical of others searching and reviving old threads.

I have seen many posts on this forum over the years where someone has posted a topic and received responses advising the OP to do a search before posting a thread topic that already exists.

Now we have what appears to be forum members (not moderators) seemingly wanting to control the content of what topics can and can’t be broached here.

Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s no rule stating that we have to read and respond to every thread.

Maybe try what I do- if a topic doesn’t interest me or if I find the topic meaningless, I just back out and go on with my life.

This is an Internet forum covering drums and drumming. It’s nothing more, nothing less. Take it easy, everyone.

I am not a regular poster but have been an active reader on this forum for many years. Some of the stuff I’ve been seeing on here lately has me thinking of taking the exit door. Take from that what you will.

Hope everyone has a great day and an even better weekend.
 

RickP

Gold Member
I think I understand the difference now. Your first post was interpreted by me as negatively viewing people who are venting about being unhappy with a product or a company. I want to know if a company has done right or has screwed someone over. I think you are talking more about the recent Sonor thread and ones similar to that where the OP drags the thread on and on. My mistake.

Exactly -glad We got that cleared up
 

Bozozoid

Well-known member
Is this a forum food fight?. Good or bad I need a forum to get advice on particular cymbals gear etc. This info is priceless to me. Food fights?..i just duck and run.
 

Old PIT Guy

Well-known member
Meta rants often don't go as well as intended. It's rhetorically a mirror in front of a mirror, so people get all tizzy and dizzy.
 

Lee-Bro

Senior Member
The way I see it is why get angry with others? That's like drinking poison and expecting someone else to die.

IF this ever works, I'm running out to buy a case of poison...from my local independent poison shop, not some large, corporate online poison retailer of course.
 

C.M. Jones

Well-known member
👌 :D👏 I don’t understand why some of you guys are getting so prickly about inoffensive threads that you clearly find meaningless, not to mention annoying? It’s pretty easy; leave the thread/don’t participate... :unsure:

And that, Mr. Strange, cuts to the very core of braving the thorny thicket of forum discourse. If a discussion strikes your fancy, explore it and perhaps even participate in it, but if it ignites repulsion or dismay, abstain from further investigation and proceed with vital business. You can't reform the world you live in, but you can control the way you relate to it.
 

Bozozoid

Well-known member
👌 :D👏 I don’t understand why some of you guys are getting so prickly about inoffensive threads that you clearly find meaningless, not to mention annoying? It’s pretty easy; leave the thread/don’t participate... :unsure:
You ah..demoanstadate..great wisdom grasshoppah..and I'm not being sarcastic
 

paradiddle pete

Platinum Member
Does Technology create more problems than it has solved? One thing I have noticed in the real world and in Cyberplace..people don't have patience anymore. I agree why bag someones business on the net. the net doesn't care..
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
Feeling the need to control another's opinion always baffled me.

The story of 2 blind men and the elephant applies here.

A 3rd guy asks both men what an elephant feels like.

The first blind man says an elephant feels like a big thick heavy wrinkly water hose

The second blind man says an elephant feels like a piece of rope with a tassel on the end

Imagine someone trying to tell you one thing when you clearly know differently. Well that's exactly what needs to be done. It ain't easy lol.

It's kind of like NEWSFLASH, there are way more wildly different perspectives...other than our own, and generally speaking, all equally valid, by virtue of completely different perspectives. The original person can't imagine that. It's not their fault. The moral of the story is to be open to others perspectives....without getting all butthurt. Because there are an infinite number of perspectives.

Discounting that fact is irresponsible and creates problems all around
 

oldskoolsoul

Silver Member
..there are way more wildly different perspectives...other than our own, and generally speaking, all equally valid, by virtue of completely different perspectives..


But there is also something called knowledge and facts..

I know this thread started because of gear and i am someone who could not care less about gear, but regarding “perspectives” in general, i strongly disagree with that statement..

Example, if Peter Erskine teaches something about timekeeping and a mediocre hobbyist advocates the opposite, would you really say both “perspectives” are equally valid..?

To me such amateur “perspectives” are nothing more than an opinion, based on nothing at all..

To me, on this forum, the perspectives from decent pro players or pro teachers (the ones whose playing can be found and seen somewhere) have quite some more value than the perspectives from anyone else..
 

Sakae2xBopster

Well-known member
The thread title is a slur against ‘old’ people.
Actually, it may be the other way around, Beet.
IMO the vast majority of "slurs" on this forum seem to be against young people.

As for venting, if we can't vent here where can we vent? My wife doesn't want to hear about a tom that just won't resonate properly no matter what head is used. Maybe we just need a category called "VENTING" that all such threads can go into. That way, people who take exception to them can just avoid them altogether.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
Example, if Peter Erskine teaches something about timekeeping and a mediocre hobbyist advocates the opposite, would you really say both “perspectives” are equally valid..?

When it's framed like that, no. Me using the term "equally valid" above is subjective so not valid here. My bad. I shouldn't have said it like that. Wildly different is closer to what I want to say, right or wrong notwithstanding. There is more than one way to the waterfall, and while Peter Erskine's truth is valid, there are other just as valid truths. Maybe not from mediocre hobbyists. Travis Barker's truths are no less valid than Peter Erskines though, just from a different perspective. There's exceptions to everything, no exceptions lol. Acceptance of stuff I'm initially averse to with has become an increasingly valuable tool in my life. Which blind man was "right"? Both of them. It's clear that one blind man trying to change the other blind mans mind is a waste of time. However, if someone does waste their time doing that, they should be heard fully and the facts weighed before disregarding it completely.
 
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Bozozoid

Well-known member
BUT...not if the system is contrived of anything other than a perspective situational antithesis with a marginal if not dillusional approach to one or the other.
 

Sakae2xBopster

Well-known member
I may be middle-aged, but I just don't understand young people. (I've forgotten the incredible angst I felt at 15.)
I may be young, but I just don't understand how my grandma can stand to watch "Golden Girls" reruns over and over again. (Even though I've watched The Weeknd's new video a hundred times already.)
I may be old, but I liked it better when we just had 45s, and videos weren't even a thing yet. (Even though I've watched Vinnie in "If I Ever Lose My Faith in You" at least once a week for the past 8 years.)

Are these slurs? Really?
Where is the "bad thinking" in OP feeling that people are too quick to air their grievances? I don't agree with OP at all, but I don't see the "bad thinking" in the way he framed the post. IMO we are too quick to call "slur" these days, whether its reactions to "I may be old" or reactions to another thread asking about "favorite female drummers."

Okay. I'm ready to get flamed now.
 
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