I have to search, but buyinh that many die cast hoops I think will be much more expensive than going with the SC Performer from the start.You might be able to find a Ludwig Continental kit on Thomann.
Out of your options, I'd go with the Tama Superstar Classic. Later on you could put die-cast hoops on them, so they become Starclassic lites. The all-bright, all-sustain Mapex sound doesn't speak to me.
I'd avoid the Saturn Pro. They're made from maple and basswood instead of Maple and WalnutWhat about the Saturn Pro? I found one used, the only downside is the toms being 12/13. I was looking for 10/12.
Any models you would recommend in that case?
The hoops are the icing on the cake, and with stock flanged hoops these are still great drums. With SC Performers you have to pay for the hoops, with the corners cut on somewhere else (bass drum lug numbers, limited finishes, etc.).I have to search, but buyinh that many die cast hoops I think will be much more expensive than going with the SC Performer from the start.
Really? Have you checked this site? https://www.milanuncios.com/baterias/bateria-tama-birch-5-piezas-ganga-494214947.htmI am also looking for pretty much anything at those price ranges in the second hand market, which is terrible where I live (Spain)
I had the luck to have a Renown liy at my rehearsal room for a year. The owner wasn't that great at tuning them, and I would have tried other heads, I wasn't confident enough to fiddle with them. Other fellow drummers who have tried the set and know Renows told me that these are really good (so I shouldn't say no just because of my previous experience).Based on sound quality, and price to performance, I'd recommend a used Gretsch Renown, followed by a new Yamaha Tour Custom, but I know those may be hard to find in your country.
Gretsch Renown, best sounding drums by far. Resonant, rich and full.
Yamaha Tour Custom, great value, great sound.
Mapex Saturn - I played a Saturn III kit for years in a church band, they're great sounding drums. Probably the most versatile of the kits you mention in your original post.
Mapex Armory - great value, very staccato sound, lots of attack which is great for Rock. Not the biggest fan of the finishes personally.
Tama Starclassic Performer - the cheaper version of their Starclassic line. Sound great, lots of punch, great for Rock. Probably the fanciest-looking finishes and hardware.
Tama Superstar Classic - I love the thin 5mm shells, they sing even at low volumes...they have lots of resonance...but thin shells have less projection, so they are slightly less ideal for loud rock music. But they will still work for rock.
Of these kits, I would try to find a Saturn in your budget... but I think you'd be very happy with a Tama Starclassic Performer kit. They're a good value and sound great for Rock.
He has the Starclassic Performers tuned low in this video, very nice...
Eh! That one was flying under the radar!Really? Have you checked this site? https://www.milanuncios.com/baterias/bateria-tama-birch-5-piezas-ganga-494214947.htm
No idea if you're close to Madrid, but that would be a nice deal. If you find anything close to where you live, just ask for our opinion (we love spending other people's money )
Fair enough, that's a long ride. If you don't want to tell us where you live exactly, that's fine, but don't give up on used sets - there will be a deal eventually. Maybe in France or Portugal, too (depending on which side of the country you live).Madrid is about 7 hours in car, about 170€ for fuel and tolls. Quite the distance for me.
Fair enough, that's a long ride. If you don't want to tell us where you live exactly, that's fine, but don't give up on used sets - there will be a deal eventually. Maybe in France or Portugal, too (depending on which side of the country you live).
The PDP CX series (that are specifically made in Ensenada Mexico) are incredible. DW/PDP used the same North American Maple that they used on the DW Collector's series, so they sound virtually identical to a $3000-4000 kit.Any thoughts on the PDP CX series? Just found an used kit (10,12,14,22+snare), with a cymbal stand and Hardcases for 1000€. It's very close to me.
I have no idea where this one sits in the PDP range.
Just because of the Hardcases there's good value there. Only issues are the 14" floating floor tom (I would rather go with a 16" with legs), and also the White Oyster finish has started to go yellow on some parts of the bass drum and the snare.
The PDP CX series (that are specifically made in Ensenada Mexico) are incredible. DW/PDP used the same North American Maple that they used on the DW Collector's series, so they sound virtually identical to a $3000-4000 kit.
I have the PDP MX kit (the PDP MX, CX, and LX are the same drums, with different finishes). They sound phenomenal. The only downside is the 14" hanging floor tom. I bought a 16" floor tom and refinished it to match my kit's finish. They sound amazing, and the kick drum is the best-sounding kick drum I own.
My PDP MX kit sounds exactly like this DW Collector's kit. (the drum sizes are identical)