This thread is a result of a PM between Polly & myself. I think it opens up a wider trend observation. I've always placed great value on the micro placement of the kick drum, & using kick placement variation as a subtle flavour enhancer. Many of you will have seen me congratulate players on their kick placement in the your playing section from time to time. In many ways, I'm sensing (possibly incorrectly) this is no longer a popular area of playing concentration. We all rely on the kick as the pulse in so many popular genres, but increasingly, the flavour is added at the top of the kit, leaving the kick pulse as a steady ostinato. I do this too, but I also switch the rolls by keeping a steady ostinato at the top of the kit, & using the kick placement to change the vibe. Am I out of touch here? Is this a skill that's being kicked into the long grass as a result of the relentless quest for easy consumption?