Finally pulled the trigger on some used Istanbul Agop 30th anniversary 15 hats 18 crash 22 ride. No bargain in fact v expensive even 2nd hand. Played them all afternoon, mmmmm they are fantastic they really do sound like old Ks, which is ideal for my duo (Fender Rhodes and Drums). I have played K Cons. and considered these but was put off as all the rides I played have that Zildjian attack the old Ks don't posses. Think I might have to sell some other gear and get the China. Anyone tried the 20“ or should I go all in and get the 22”.