Is this Drumming right?
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Rattlin' Bones
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She has a Hal-octave vocal range, if that. Like whoever told her she has any talent.
Yeah the drum groove in some parts sounds off. Those quarters almost sound like they're between the notes.
Overall very poor all around for an act that has high aspirations.
toddbishop
Platinum Member
Sounds just fine, I might not make all the same choices as him, but what he's doing is right on the money.
Well?..just playing producer id listen to the take. I'd make a recommendation that we call Porcaro. We can do it your way but there are consequences. I want more definition in verse chorus bridge. Do it live as you wish but for now I want to make you money and recognition.
equipmentdork
Junior Member
I'll refrain from other comments, but IMO the only time for the 1/4s on the kick was the first verse, and even THEN I don't think it was a good idea. I was dying to hear a strong 2 and 4 but never got it. I think, for me, those patterns are too busy for a simple, HOLE-like track like this.
Ok, it definitely needs a bigger guitar sound(at least another player) and what was the deal with the video idea? Sorry, couldn't resist.
Dan
Ok, it definitely needs a bigger guitar sound(at least another player) and what was the deal with the video idea? Sorry, couldn't resist.
Dan
D.Rummereagle
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The music video with the puppets? Idk. What did you think of it?
equipmentdork
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You probably don't want to know what I think.
Besides, I'm just a guy on the interweb. They've obviously put lots of time and money and effort into this, but they just don't have a song there, end of story, and Simon Cowell-ing the rest of it seems brutish and unfair. Having had it dished out to me, I hesitate to dish it back.
Dan
D.Rummereagle
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I'd be interested to know your opinion, it's not my band anyway. I agree a lot of work went into the music video. But a hit, do you think?You probably don't want to know what I think.
They've obviously put lots of time and money and effort into this, but they just don't have a song there, end of story, and Simon Cowell-ing the rest of it seems brutish and unfair. Having had it dished out to me, I hesitate to dish it back.
Dan
equipmentdork
Junior Member
My opinion? No. Frankly, I find the puppets distracting and uninteresting--is the video for the puppets or the band? Seems like whomever made the video forgot why they were making it--to sell the music. Most of the potential audience are going to tune out at the beginning when it takes an entire minute for the band to kick in--and they talk over the music, too(oy!). Were they trying to go for a Katy Perry sort of vibe? It's not particularly that kind of light pop fare. And I did hear at least one part where the band was untight and the snare sound wasn't particularly happening.
Again, take this with a grain of salt; I wouldn't have bet on Lana Del Rey to sell a single album either, think I was off on that one!
Dan
Chris Whitten
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The track is kind of retro-new wave. The drumming style of that genre tends to be quite stiff, off kilter. It never wants to be slick, with a pro groove.
The other thing that gets me about these discussions is that people assume the drumming is purely down to the drummer.
When I play on a record I do what the songwriter asks me to do, and/or the bandleader, and/or the producer.
If they want slightly stiff four on the floor bass drum, with off beat hi-hat and snare on 2 & 4 just in the chorusses, that's exactly what I will do.
Auspicious
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@D.Rummereagle I wonder, why are you so interested in this band and are these people professional or it's a good hobbyist music project? I kind of like the multimedia montage.
What is the deal with these people anyway?
What is the deal with these people anyway?
Of course you do..what else?..heaven forbid you should have any other opinion. As a producer do you think that they are out for dinner thinking damn it..i should have changed that and let Chris put the fill he suggested in there?. I get you and agree BUT.
As you said..way better....absolutely.
DrumEatDrum
Platinum Member
I think the studio version confirms my initial thoughts.
The studio version sounds recorded to a click (maybe even a drum machine/computer programming) and the rhythm guitar playing is more spot-on.
As opposed to the live version where the rhythm guitar fluctuates.
In the studio version, the rhythm guitar is following the drums. In the live version, the drummer is following the rhythm guitar.
The studio version sounds recorded to a click (maybe even a drum machine/computer programming) and the rhythm guitar playing is more spot-on.
As opposed to the live version where the rhythm guitar fluctuates.
In the studio version, the rhythm guitar is following the drums. In the live version, the drummer is following the rhythm guitar.
ottog1979
Senior Member
Yeah, this. Her singing aside, the song wants to DRIVE. The drummer certainly isn't participating in that. I kept waiting for him to jump in and show who's boss.
Klyde
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It's her singing right? right?The intro is super catchy. I'm not hearing wild time fluctuation. I think this vocalist has a cool vibe. Geddy Lee's cousin?. Anyway I just think the drummer needs to take command..THIS is where the time is..THIS is the feel..hang on for the ride. I kept thinking Chris Whitten would take this to the charts.. I really do think it has potential.
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