I'm A Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Boy.

drstrangefunk

Senior Member
Had to look them up. Was it at the join?

actually it was further toward the front about one third from the tip. it appears to be exactly where the stick hits the hi-hat edge, but i don't think that's what caused it, as the the sheath was ungouged. the cool thing is it didn't shatter and fly across the room. it just kind of went flimsy underneath the sheath. (no viagra jokes please...this is a family form...innit ?) when i went around the drum kit to see which lick might have done the deed...that point seems to take brunt of impact for every drum and cymbal.

another cool thing is that it is still playable. just softer in volume. amazing actually. i still think i could design a better stick, but nothing else has come anywhere close to lasting me this long, and i can't complain at all.

The Life Of An Ahead Studio Hybrid 5AB Stick
Feb 2011 - Bought $32
Oct 2011 - Started To Lose Tips (they screw on-plastic tip threads just started to go)
Mar 2012 - Finally Got Around To Re-Tipping and Re-Sheathing
Jun 2012 - Broke Right Hand Stick (that's the hand it was in when it went-who knows which hand does the major damage-it could very well be left hand snare impact that did most of the eventual damage...i do believe in smaking the snare HARD : ) !!!)

i'll take 1.5 years of life from a drum stick any time.

and i'll definitely get another set, but i also want to see what other sticks they make.
 
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drstrangefunk

Senior Member
Tsss tssss tssss...

You're such a brute Doc... what's next, this?
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

perfect way to start the day. thanks i needed that !!!!!!!!!!!

i'm still chuckling.

hee heeeeeeee !!!!
 

Davo-London

Gold Member
Even though I've only even broken one stick (in 7 years), there is a strange pleasure in it.

Not sure which part of my psyche this appeals to.

Davo
 

drstrangefunk

Senior Member
Even though I've only even broken one stick (in 7 years), there is a strange pleasure in it.

Not sure which part of my psyche this appeals to.

Davo
the part that likes tearing up stuff. : )

indeed. when i broke the marching band stick 3 years ago, i put it down to poor technique as i was just starting out (you should have seen the look on my local stick proprietor's face when i told him what i'd done). i now realise that am just MIGHTEOUS.
 

Andy

Administrator
Staff member
What are those things made of? I've tried carbon fibre sticks, & was fearful of damaging my cymbals. I know what I'd rather be breaking regularly :(
 

Anon La Ply

Renegade
Oct 2011 - Started To Lose Tips (they screw on-plastic tip threads just started to go)
Mar 2012 - Finally Got Around To Re-Tipping and Re-Sheathing
lol - I relate to that.


i'll take 1.5 years of life from a drum stick any time.
I started using Billy Stewart 7As about 2 years ago and one of the wood tips is starting to go soft. But I don't hit as hard - not really a smacker any more.

Does anyone know of a product that can put the ping back into wood tips sticks?


What are those things made of?
A product description:
Precision alloy core provides negligible weight and balance variations. Super-hard replacement polyurethane covers protect both sticks and gear. Vibration-reduction system reduces hand fatigue. Aluminium drumsticks with replaceable nylon sleeves.
Don't geddit ... "aluminum drumsticks" with a "precision alloy core" and "polyurethane covers"??
 

drstrangefunk

Senior Member
What are those things made of? I've tried carbon fibre sticks, & was fearful of damaging my cymbals. I know what I'd rather be breaking regularly :(
the silver part is the complete stick and appears to be aluminum. the black covering (sheath) over the tip end appears to be a hard rubber or plastic. the sheath does not damage cymbals. however, sloshy hats can gouge the sheath due to the uneveness of the hat edges as the stick digs in. flat un-wobbly (un-sloshy) hats caused little to no damage to the sheath.

even playing the bare aluminum stick caused no damage to cymbals. i did not slop my hats during the time that i briefly played unsheathed, so i'm not sure how sloshed hats interact with the unsheathed stick.

i am also unsure of how rimshots affect either the stick or rims, as i abhor rimshots and don't do them. but cymbals are safe i think. in truth it kind of worries me when i accidentally rimshot, but no problems so far.

if i could design a stick, it would be made out of the material that the Techra Jazz and Rock synthetic sticks are made of, except that it would not be hollow on the inside. and the handle would be covered with that firm, yet spongy material that modern jump rope handless are made of. the dimensions would be exactly the same as the above Ahead 5AB Studio Hybrid with the exception that the tip would not screw off. the stick and tip would be one piece like a wooden stick.

the Techras are very nice. they are carbon fiber and do no damage whatsoever that i found, but they are hollow on the inside. they last six months. i had the grey with blue tip model (i think that was the Jazz Model) and a black stick that i can't remember the handle end cap color. they were both very slim sticks, maybe a 7something.

Techras were very hard to find 4 years ago when i started, but now i see that both AMS and Zzounds have them in stock. i may try a 2B to see what it's like. http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-TEH-TECCP5B-LIST
 
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drstrangefunk

Senior Member
lol - I relate to that.




I started using Billy Stewart 7As about 2 years ago and one of the wood tips is starting to go soft. But I don't hit as hard - not really a smacker any more.

Does anyone know of a product that can put the ping back into wood tips sticks?




A product description:
Precision alloy core provides negligible weight and balance variations. Super-hard replacement polyurethane covers protect both sticks and gear. Vibration-reduction system reduces hand fatigue. Aluminium drumsticks with replaceable nylon sleeves.
Don't geddit ... "aluminum drumsticks" with a "precision alloy core" and "polyurethane covers"??
hee hee. yeah, it took me a while to figure out what to do...i just chased the tips around the room from mid Oct through Nov. didn't play much during Dec and Jan and bought a few pairs of regular wood sticks as stop-gaps until i figured out how to re-sheath and re-tip and/or decided to continue with Ahead Sticks

the stick is descibed in the above reply to KIS. the process is that the sheath is heated with a hair dryer - allowing it to expand. it is then removed or (attached - whichever you're doing at the time), a drop of crazy glue is applied to the tip thread - and the new tip is screwd on. GOOD AS NEW !!!

i know it sounds like a big laborious drag, but the transition actually goes pretty smooth and like clockwork. replacement sheaths are about $5 for the pair, and i'm not sure about the tips because store dude just gave me a couple. i think a bag of 6 or so is about $5.

these sticks feel really good. and i highly recommend them. the Techra's are nice too. the make a 7A.
 
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Netz Ausg

Silver Member
I’ve broken 2 Ahead sticks in my time – I had used them for years though (obviously replaced sheathes etc as I went). I stopped using them because the tips would come off very occassionaly and before you are aware that it’s happened you’ve put a dent or (on 2 occassions) a hole in your drum head.
 

drstrangefunk

Senior Member
I’ve broken 2 Ahead sticks in my time – I had used them for years though (obviously replaced sheathes etc as I went). I stopped using them because the tips would come off very occassionaly and before you are aware that it’s happened you’ve put a dent or (on 2 occassions) a hole in your drum head.
i know what you mean. i also have that fear, but it hasn't happened yet. the Techra's are worse in that regard. whereas the Ahead's only show a little nub of thread, one of my Techra's actually broke off two inches from the tip. left a jagged edge like Jughead's hat all the way around. but i've had the tips come off of wooden sticks too. both cheap ones and regular priced ones. i've never ripped a head though. even if it did happen, i'd rather replace a head than vacuum up wood chips. : ) call me Ishmael, but that's just me.

it seems like one of the Techra's only split lengthwise, less than an inch mid-shaft.
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
I’ve broken 2 Ahead sticks in my time ...
... i must admit that the sticks were a year and a half old...
I tried carbon sticks years ago, I didn't like the feel, the sound, and they were much heavier than their wood counterpart, so I always used wood drumsticks (Oak, Hickory or Maple).

However, I use to break my rods very often, so 2 years ago I invested in a pair of carbon rods, I use them very often, and touch wood (carbon?) I didn't manage to break them (yet) and they went through some abuse I can tell you that, I also use the Steve Smith's Tala Wand rods, the unique design of these rods make them lasting longer than conventional rods.

Does anyone know of a product that can put the ping back into wood tips sticks?
You can dip the tip into nail varnish (transparent, if you got some), a couple times, allowing to dry thoroughly between coats, it will give a bit of "ping" back to the stick.
 

NerfLad

Silver Member
Ahead sticks are so overrated. A year and a half ago I paid 80 bucks for a brick of Maple SD2 Bolero's and I've broken 2 of them. That's $16 for sticks in almost 2 years. I hate to be that guy, but if you're breaking a stick made out of metal your technique is beyond bad. Yes, I hit the drums hard.
 

Netz Ausg

Silver Member
Ahead sticks are so overrated. A year and a half ago I paid 80 bucks for a brick of Maple SD2 Bolero's and I've broken 2 of them. That's $16 for sticks in almost 2 years. I hate to be that guy, but if you're breaking a stick made out of metal your technique is beyond bad. Yes, I hit the drums hard.
Better drummers than all of us break drum sticks of all types. I invite you to come and watch me play. PM for my next gig details

;)

Also - as I ommitted it earlier - I broke both sticks on rim shots. Big hits on the snare. You'd be hard pressed to kill them on a cymbal. The cymbal would give first. In both instances the sheath survived the hit but the rim shot snapped the alluminium rod within. I'd been using them specifically for very hard hitting music for years - so I'm not suprised they gave out. They're designed to be durable - not unbreakable.
 

NerfLad

Silver Member
I have no doubt you can play well, I'm just saying you might want to reevaluate your technique, for the sake of not hurting yourself.
 

Anon La Ply

Renegade
You can dip the tip into nail varnish (transparent, if you got some), a couple times, allowing to dry thoroughly between coats, it will give a bit of "ping" back to the stick.
Cheers Henri. I've heard of this but I always felt that the nail polish would do what it does on my toenails ... wear off pretty fast. Hmm, maybe some nail hardener ...
 
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