Well the OP post an obscure Ladies only that I still haven’t seen them jumps to a conclusion of the site doesn’t give female drummers credit. Which is false - there are also quite a few female forum members and seems more coming in.
Im Offended, but then what does that mean? Nothing ...happens when two people offend each other. they are just offended.I've determined that it's impossible not to offend someone, no matter what you do. The world is too complicated, and people are too intent on being offended.
I'm considering going proactive, and simply offending everyone on purpose, lol. Can't bring myself to do it. Yet.
When it involves singling out a group of people, no matter the intent, it is discriminatory. It doesnt have to be ill-willed. Once you single out a group it all of a sudden has special criteria other than just human. It then also becomes easy for another group to find fault with it.And yet categorizing is what humans do. It's fundamental to decision making. I think the idea that categorizing is inherently discriminatory is incorrect.
Well, I think being offended for a group you're not a part of can be offensive to that group. By speaking for them without their asking it of you, you're essentially saying they aren't capable of it themselves. Do you think their voice or opinion doesn't matter, or that yours is more important? Do you think they are they not strong enough willed to defend themselves? Did they require a white knight to come along and save them? Do you think they're that weak?
Maybe the forum members should drop all pronouns-so No I, He, She, etc. So the forum members go by moniker. "Getagrippa thinks this conversations is just getting crazy and blah, blah, blah, blah. " What do the forum members think? GetAgrippa is rolling around the floor laughing hysterically. Tears rolling down GetAgrippa's eyes and face-stop, stop, stop.
Well I'm ready for some popcorn-carry on my wayward son-there will be peace when you are done, blah, blah bah.
When it involves singling out a group of people, no matter the intent, it is discriminatory. It doesnt have to be ill-willed. Once you single out a group it all of a sudden has special criteria other than just human. It then also becomes easy for another group to find fault with it.
I see no problem with the term ladies. But as the thread has demonstrated, someone managed to find an inherent issue with the singling out.
Wise words, my friend.Threads of this nature do nothing to strengthen our community. They bear no relation to technique, teaching, equipment, gigging, or recording, and they're a lot more contentious than they are intriguing. Ideological petitions should be submitted to the site's owner, not to forum members. Let's not allow divergent cultural expectations to sever our bond as drummers. At the end of the day, we all hold sticks, regardless of the titles by which we wish to be addressed.