I Didn't Know This Sucked Until I Came to DW

Square

Square

El Conquistador
Peer pressure, that oldest of motivators and opinion influencers...

I typically don't care if I'm "in fashion". I march to the beat of my own drum in most things in life. That doesn't mean that I don't recognize when the crowd has a different or unexpected viewpoint.

To that point there are some items that I have been surprised by when I find out that I'm on the outside.

In this thread, please post what it is you were/are completely happy with only to find out that the collective wisdom of DrummerWorld preaches a contrary message.

Here are three that come to mind;

1. Remo UT heads Suck! They are not that bad. Not the best of course, but serviceable until you can get better. Not complete crap.

2. Electronic kits are a waste of time and effort. No, not really. They do need to be dialed in. Sensitivity and velocity curves make all the difference. Is there a big jump from electronic to acoustic in terms of feel and touch? You bet. Similar to driving a Honda Civic and jumping into a 4x4 pickup, it takes a few miles to get comfortable. Not insurmountable.

3. 18" deep bass drums are a mess. Disclaimer here; I don't gig but I do set up in a very tight space. I never gave it a second thought until I came here. 22x14, 22x16, 22x18... If four inches is going to make or break your set up, maybe you should play a cajon. That's a bit tongue in cheek, I get it some stages are like postage stamps, but for most of us, not a factor that should be our primary motivation I'm thinking.


So what is it that you learned to dislike because DW says so?
 
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what I learend was "not cool", that I still swear by

playing fast
busy fills
busy beats
odd time signatures
liking drumming for drumming's sake
large drum kits
practicing for practicing's sake
not being impressed by Ringo, Bonham or Buddy

I am also The Black Sheep of my world (hence the avatar), so I get where you are coming from.

but man, I love this forum. I have learned A LOT, and gotten some great perspective about playing and teaching drums here, and also have met a ton of great people from around the world. It restores my faith in humanity, or at least our little drumming corner of it, every day!!!
 
Square said:
So what is it that you learned to dislike because DW says so?
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Not much. I've gone down a few rabbit holes listening to other people, but so far I've almost always come back to my original thinking. That can be good though, because the process gives me a better understanding of why I had an opinion in the first place, and a better appreciation of why other drummers see things differently.

One thing I've really noticed about the forum is that sometimes pro drummers and hobby drummers are living on on two different planets. What's great advice for one can sound like nonsense to the other, at times. We need to be aware that different people are making comments that apply to very different contexts.
 
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Square said:
Peer pressure, that oldest of motivators and opinion influencers...

I typically don't care if I'm "in fashion". I march to the beat of my own drum in most things in life. That doesn't mean that I don't recognize when the crowd has a different or unexpected viewpoint.

To that point there are some items that I have been surprised by when I find out that I'm on the outside.

In this thread, please post what it is you were/are completely happy with only to find out that the collective wisdom of DrummerWorld preaches a contrary message.

Here are three that come to mind;

1. Remo UT heads Suck! They are not that bad. Not the best of course, but serviceable until you can get better. Not complete crap.

2. Electronic kits are a waste of time and effort. No, not really. They do need to be dialed in. Sensitivity and velocity curves make all the difference. Is there a big jump from electronic to acoustic in terms of feel and touch? You bet. Similar to driving a Honda Civic and jumping into a 4x4 pickup, it takes a few miles to get comfortable. Not insurmountable.

3. 18" deep bass drums are a mess. Disclaimer here; I don't gig but I do set up in a very tight space. I never gave it a second thought until I came here. 22x14, 22x16, 22x18... If four inches is going to make or break your set up, maybe you should play a cajon. That's a bit tongue in cheek, I get it some stages are like postage stamps, but for most of us, not a factor that should be our primary motivation I'm thinking.


So what is it that you learned to dislike because DW says so?
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Ive Been an Evans guy for years but tried some Remo Emperors based off this Forum.... Meh, they aound good , but i still will go back to Evans due to better QA in manufacturing. I had to replace a couple Remos due to bad hoops.
 
I agree on all the points from the first two posters, and will also add drummer gloves to the mix. Though I've had the feeling even before I knew of DW that people have strong polarizing feelings on them, they just simply work for me, so I don't care if someone thinks they look "lame" or whatever. At least in a metal setting, I feel they should not get all the bad rep they tend to.
 
Square said:
Peer pressure, that oldest of motivators and opinion influencers...
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So what is it that you learned to dislike because DW says so?
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Absolutely Zero..

Before I originally joined DW or even before online forums/boards existed, I had already spent almost 25 years of studying, teaching and playing. Now approaching 50 years, I can assure you I am unable to be 'that influenced' by anyone on a forum that will change my mind on my beliefs.

Don't get me wrong, I'm most interested in hearing peoples opinions and insights, but to say they will change my own mind on something wouldn't be accurate. Also, I wouldn't dare try to change their opinions or views either.

I totally believe in to each their own. It's none of my business if someone does or doesn't like something whether it be gear related, style of drumming or type of music. When I come across posters that try to 'influence' those types of things, I ignore and move on.

I would also hope someone wouldn't change their position on something based on one of my statements. I try not to do that sort of thing, but I may not always succeed.
 
For me, it's bass drum tom mounts. I much prefer them over using snare stands for toms, or suspending toms from cymbal stands. I don't dislike virgin bass drums per se, but I'm not a huge fan of them.

22x18 bass drums are fine, too. I can get one in the backseat of my little Hyundai Elantra so that works for me. In fact, I can stuff a 22" bass drum, a floor tom and two snares back there so that works remarkably well.

I'm still sour on e-kits though as they have let me down so many times, and potentially cost me a lucrative gig with a tribute band. I'm glad they work for some people but they're definitely not for me.
 
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No Way Jose said:
Eh I'm still not fond of electronic drums. But I agree that they have some qualities that I like, such as they are quieter and don't have to be tuned.
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Right? My daughter is home sick and it’s my day off. Electronic drums to the rescue. I can play all day and she can sleep.

Add to that, that I’m just working on moving the bass and snare ( independent of each other) though the 16th note grid while grooving. Lots of repetition that she, and the neighbors, would not appreciate.
 
If I quit doing things because people on the internet don’t like it, I wouldn’t even play music. I wouldn’t know whether to poop or go blind. I’ll listen to advice if I think I care enough to, but since almost every subject has multiple ways of doing things, then I pick what I think applies to me and pfft the rest.
 
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