How Do You Read These Notes?

[ZenR1]

In the second half of this bar, which is in common time, the last 4 snare hits are 16th notes right? Starting from the first snare/bass note combination, which starts on 3, how would you count this out?

 

[WhoIsTony?]

1 + 2 + 3 +a .e+a. resting 4

 

[ZenR1]

1 + 2 + 3 +a .e+a. resting 4

So if the hihat note between the last two snare notes wasn't there, those two snare hits would be 8ths ( 4resting + a )? It's the hihat in between that makes the snare hits 16ths? Do I have this right?

 

[WhoIsTony?]

So if the hihat note between the last two snare notes wasn't there, those two snare hits would be 8ths ( 4resting + a )? It's the hihat in between that makes the snare hits 16ths? Do I have this right?

no the snare would still be on the e and the a

removing one of the notes is not going to change the placement of the others

 

[ZenR1]

no the snare would still be on the e and the a

removing one of the notes is not going to change the placement of the others

But the last two snare hits are farther apart than the previous two 16th snare hits?

 

[WhoIsTony?]

But the last two snare hits are farther apart than the previous two 16th snare hits?

you count 16th notes - 1E+A 2E+A 3E+A 4E+A

those two snare hits are on the E and the A of 4 and they always will be no matter what you take away

the two previous snare hits are on the + and the A of 3 ... those two beats are right next to each other that's why they are closer together

 

[ZenR1]

you count 16th notes - 1E+A 2E+A 3E+A 4E+A

those two snare hits are on the E and the A of 4 and they always will be no matter what you take away

the two previous snare hits are on the + and the A of 3 ... those two beats are right next to each other that's why they are closer together

When I listen to the actual song, the last two snare hits sound further apart than the previous two.

 

[WhoIsTony?]

When I listen to the actual song, the last two snare hits sound further apart than the previous two.

That’s because they are

the E and the A have a 16th between them ... the + and the A do not

I recommend hiring someone to teach you to read .

you won’t regret it.

 

[DrummerJustLikeDad]

So if the hihat note between the last two snare notes wasn't there, those two snare hits would be 8ths ( 4resting + a )? It's the hihat in between that makes the snare hits 16ths? Do I have this right?

I see what you’re saying.

Yes, if you disregard the hi-hat strike and just observe the remaining snare hits and their timing to each other, then yes, the VALUE between those snare hits (identified “E“ & “AH”) is the exact same value and relationship which a “1” & “AND” would share together.

Therefore in your example, those last two snare strikes are as if you took a coupling of 2 eighth notes and slid them to the right by an increment of a 16th note. (If it helps to look at it that way, which I gather is where you were taking it.)

 

[TMe]

It misread it at first.

Here's what I get.

1 e & u 2 e & u 3 e & u 4 e & u
x - x - x - o - x - x x - - x -
1 - - - 2 - - - 3 - & u - e - u

 

[ZenR1]

I see what you’re saying.

Yes, if you disregard the hi-hat strike and just observe the remaining snare hits and their timing to each other, then yes, the VALUE between those snare hits (identified “E“ & “AH”) is the exact same value and relationship which a “1” & “AND” would share together.

Therefore in your example, those last two snare strikes are as if you took a coupling of 2 eighth notes and slid them to the right by an increment of a 16th note. (If it helps to look at it that way, which I gather is where you were taking it.)

yes...that is where I was taking it. Not sure if it's helpful

 

[toddbishop]

That's over-complicating it. If you just count the rhythm of all the parts together:

1 & 2 & 3 &a (4)e&a

-and hit the appropriate thing to line up with the counted rhythm, you'll have it. There's nothing else to get.

 

[toddbishop]

The time signature is 4/4. The first five notes are all 8th notes.

 

[WhoIsTony?]

All 16ths. 1st beat all played. 2nd - 2 (e) & a. 3rd - (3) e & a.

this is incorrect

 

[Uncle_MC]

All 16ths. 1st beat all played. 2nd - 2 (e) & a. 3rd - (3) e & a.

Are we looking at the same thing? There's no sixteenth notes on the first two beats.

 

[rustyfingers]

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[TOMANO]

Are we looking at the same thing? There's no sixteenth notes on the first two beats.

Yep. You are correct. I read it wrong.

 

[TOMANO]

this is incorrect

Yep. I read it wrong. My bad.

 

[TOMANO]

Having read it quickly on my phone, I screwed it up. I will take a drumstick in the eye.

1 & 2 & 3 (e) & a (4) e & a.

Feeling shame, I will play this for an hour.

Peace & Love.

MT

 

[TMe]

What throws me off is four eighth notes tied together to make a half note. Hate that. Who writes drumkit scores like that? We all think in terms of quarter notes, don't we?