someguy01
Platinum Member
+1I wish Yamaha would go ahead and offer a large amount of colors
This is what has kept me from considering a set, the colours are boring.
+1I wish Yamaha would go ahead and offer a large amount of colors
If you love them and can't live without them they aren't overpriced. Expensive, yes but so are Gretsch USA Customs and DW Collector's. Still, people continue to buy them.They are expensive.
Are they overpriced? That depends on your own definition of overpriced, and how you determine it.
i quite like the tour customs, they have good hardware and nice finishes (especially the natural and caramel finishes). obviously not as shiny and “trendy” as the starclassic W/B or other kits in the range but they look like a back to basics kit that gets the job done. a very standard maple kit, i really like it.The Live Custom Hybrid is equally priced with Tama Starclassic Maple here in Europe though (in Germany at least, where I bought mine from), the Absolute Maple Hybrids are just a tad bit more expensive. Still cost more than their previous Live Custom kit though (maybe they justify it with the added bassdrum weights, hybrid shell, and type of specialty finish), but doesn't seem that extreme in comparison. At least not to me . But I agree, they should have more choices in the area between the Stage Customs and Oaks. Maybe expand on their Tour Customs a bit more, make it a more desirable kit (compared with the Starclassic Walnut/Birch, Saturns, Masters Maple Complete etc, who really thinks about/knows about the Tour Customs? Seems like they sell nowhere close to these other choices).
no, even the kits that ask a big premium for big names (dw for example) make good kits. are they feature packed like competing kits? not really, but you know you’re getting good stuff. to make an example using guitars, you can buy a high end ibanez for a couple thousand that will have the best stuff available, or you can get a base model les paul. is the LP going to be as feature packed as the ibanez? no, but you can’t deny the LP is a very good guitar and there are reasons why you should go for one over the other, even if the value for money isn’t so good.I guess what I meant was, if I spend $2500 on Sonor vs. Tama, am I getting less (paying for Sonor name)?
those 2 brands seem “jazz or old school rock/r&b” drums because of how old they are and how they market their history as the leading benefit, but they’re not drastically different than other brands. sure there are specialized kits like the club date or broadkaster that don’t do so well with some genres because of round edges and few ply construction, but buy a more usual/common kit like CMs or brooklyns (even USA customs) and you will get a very modern sound if you want. modern ply drums can sound good in any genre, be it metal or bossa novaAs long as the thread is wandering around, let me ask: Ludwig and Gretsch appear to be geared more toward a vintage and/or jazz vibe rather than hard rock or metal. Am I reading that wrong?
Thanks, I'll poke around some more. Gretsch in particular it seemed hard to not find references to "vintage sound" and so on. I may have not looked closely enough though.those 2 brands seem “jazz or old school rock/r&b” drums because of how old they are and how they market their history as the leading benefit, but they’re not drastically different than other brands. sure there are specialized kits like the club date or broadkaster that don’t do so well with some genres because of round edges and few ply construction, but buy a more usual/common kit like CMs or brooklyns (even USA customs) and you will get a very modern sound if you want. modern ply drums can sound good in any genre, be it metal or bossa nova
renowns, brooklyns and USA customs are very versatile, broadkasters have older style shells and mounting hardware so get that only if you know you’ll like that sound and style. i really like them but they’re not for everyoneThanks, I'll poke around some more. Gretsch in particular it seemed hard to not find references to "vintage sound" and so on. I may have not looked closely enough though.
Will Calhoun (Living Color) started with Pearl, went to Sonor, then Mapex, and now he's with Gretsch. And Living Color still rocks hard.Thanks, I'll poke around some more. Gretsch in particular it seemed hard to not find references to "vintage sound" and so on. I may have not looked closely enough though.
It worked on me.Tama, Pearl, and Yamaha landed in the US hard and heavy in the mid/late 70's,
This video might be a bit silly, but since you asked.. Interestingly, the "Jazz guy" plays a New Classic and the "Metal guy" a Renown. I believe that the general perception is that they should be used the other way around.Thanks, I'll poke around some more. Gretsch in particular it seemed hard to not find references to "vintage sound" and so on. I may have not looked closely enough though.
I'm sure Simon was responsible for selling more than a few Tama kitsIt worked on me.
c.1980 I attended a Jeff Beck concert at the open-air theater in Santa Barbara. Yes, it was a perfect setting with sun and mild temperatures all day. By then, I had not played drums in six years due to the college/career “interruption”. Beck’s drummer was Simon Phillips ......
Well. TIL Simon Phillips played on a Judas Priest album. Huh. I recently re-read his first (I think) Modern Drummer interview from sometime in the early 80s, and I don't recall him talking about that! (Which isn't to say he didn't, of course.)He popped up on my radar in 1977, Judas Priests "Sin After Sin".
Check out the track "Dissident Aggressor".Well. TIL Simon Phillips played on a Judas Priest album. Huh.
And then this landed in my lap ......And then I listened to that track. And it's so clearly him, from the very first. God, what a player.