Help, 18" ride cymbal?

Good Karma

Well-known member
I've played a 4 piece for about 25 years and I added another rack tom, 10 & 12 and offset them to the left because I don't want to give up my ride cymbal placement. So by adding the 10" it pushed my 12" over some with has cause my 21" ride to cover more of my floor tom. This is an easy fix, smaller ride....Any suggestions on a good sounding 18" ride cymbal to correct this issue?
Not to many 18" rides on the market that I could find.
Thanks for the feedback
 

buddhadrummer

Junior Member
Kinda hard to suggest with such little information about the music and your playing style, etc. IN the past I've had really good success in a loudish guitar indie rock thing using an older K Crash Ride (pre-pin-lathing). 18" as a ride is tough but if you're willing to compromise you can get away with it. An 18" can sound high or even thin as a ride, so I went with a flatter profile, plus a little bit but not too heavy. The flatter curvature lowered the overall pitch but the heavier weight gave me a bit more brightness and volume, along with a good sized cup. The newly redesigned Zildjian A Crash ride would work well, too, in almost any situation. I was really happy using the 18" K though.
 

mikyok

Platinum Member
There's lots of 18" rides, just big cymbals are in vogue.

Nicest one I ever played was a 5 Star Super Zyn.

Personally I could never sacrifice a ride cymbal just to have another tom.
This is my train of thought. Ride cymbal is the most important cymbal on the kit.
 

NouveauCliche

Senior Member
I've played a 4 piece for about 25 years and I added another rack tom, 10 & 12 and offset them to the left because I don't want to give up my ride cymbal placement. So by adding the 10" it pushed my 12" over some with has cause my 21" ride to cover more of my floor tom. This is an easy fix, smaller ride....Any suggestions on a good sounding 18" ride cymbal to correct this issue?
Not to many 18" rides on the market that I could find.
Thanks for the feedback
Zildjian made an 18" Session ride - apparently a Steve Gadd input series based on stuff he had been playing for years.

Zildjian and Gadd seem like a trust worthy combo for producing a good ride - but I never heard one in person to give you anything but the model to research.

I owned an 18" K Flat ride that was MONEY - but a flat ride is a very specific sound that you may or not be after.
 

Morrisman

Platinum Member
I have an 18”Session Ride but I never use it. It’s surprisingly heavy, an unlathed thick K Custom with deep hammering. A bit dead and pingy for my tastes these days. Would make a good barbecue plate though.
 

Giuseppe

Junior Member
I know I’m a little late to the party, but I really love my Istanbul 18” Mel Lewis 1982 crash/ride. I use it along side a 20” A Custom ping ride, but it could easily handle a jazz or classic rock set as the primary ride cymbal.
 
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roncadillac

Member
I love my 18" uptown ride. The bell is a little small (loud, but small) requiring precise sticking and the cymbal as a whole can get lost in high volumes but it's very versatile with a pronounced ping, solid bell, and nice crash.
 

Peedy

Senior Member
I think so much of the ride cymbal size discussion has to do with things like the size of the room you’re playing, type of music, mics or the lack there of, etc. I’ve gone as small as a 700g 12in A Zildjians from the mid 1930s. I needed a ride that leaned hard toward bell during the Christmas season.

Bottom line: don’t be afraid to follow where your needs take you.

Pete
 

roncadillac

Member
I think so much of the ride cymbal size discussion has to do with things like the size of the room you’re playing, type of music, mics or the lack there of, etc. I’ve gone as small as a 700g 12in A Zildjians from the mid 1930s. I needed a ride that leaned hard toward bell during the Christmas season.

Bottom line: don’t be afraid to follow where your needs take you.

Pete
That Daru Jones dj45 set has a 'ride' that is around 12" so yeah, do you and serve the music. I always used a 14" heavy bottom hi hat cymbal as a ride on my cocktail kits, worked great!
 

bermuda

Drummerworld Pro Drummer - Administrator
Staff member
A good ride cymbal isn't always labeled Ride. As Buddhadrummer said, a crash often doubles as a nice ride. My most-used ride on local gigs is an 18" Sabian AA Medium Crash! The sound it makes - crash or ride - is obviously governed by how I strike it, so there's a little technique involved. It's not a loud ride or a quiet crash, so when I need more or less for a particular gig, I will bring a lighter crash, or a dedicated ride (and the 18" becomes the crash.)

It's always best to try cymbals in person, and it's worth exploring medium-to-heavy crash cymbals to hear and feel how they behave as rides.

Bermuda
 

roncadillac

Member
A good ride cymbal isn't always labeled Ride. As Buddhadrummer said, a crash often doubles as a nice ride. My most-used ride on local gigs is an 18" Sabian AA Medium Crash! The sound it makes - crash or ride - is obviously governed by how I strike it, so there's a little technique involved. It's not a loud ride or a quiet crash, so when I need more or less for a particular gig, I will bring a lighter crash, or a dedicated ride (and the 18" becomes the crash.)

It's always best to try cymbals in person, and it's worth exploring medium-to-heavy crash cymbals to hear and feel how they behave as rides.

Bermuda
Absolutely, same as large thin rides making really cool crashes
 

GetAgrippa

Platinum Member
I've mentioned this before when I just got it. Dream Bliss Vintage 17in crash/ride. I need a quiet and small crash/ride and this is it. Really nice quiet crash (almost to quiet) and ride aspect was OK till I added some tape underneath and now it's awesome!!! I use it and my Zil 14 in paper thin and they blend nicely. Perfect for practice and small venue. I've had to wean myself off my 22 Zil K con, so first left it on stand, now taken off stand but on a bench nearby-next will be put in my case.
 
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