Gretsch USA Custom Vs. Renown

Tamaefx

Silver Member
Nice nice kit !
Why do you prefer the thin snare stand to the bass tom mount ?
 
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TK-421

Senior Member
Looks like that used oyster renown sold. No worries though, as I really want a natural finish. No trying to decide between the 18” kick jazz set or the 20” kick with 10/12/14. Thoughts?
Drum kit sizes really depend on what style of music you want to play.

12/14/18 is a "bop" configuration since it's designed for the bop style of jazz, and 18" bass drums can be tuned to blend in really well with an upright bass.

10/12/14/20 is considered a "fusion" kit as it's designed as a hybrid between jazz and rock kits (or for jazz fusion music). I find these sizes are great for funk, R&B, or any "groove" oriented music. It's also great for smaller drummers.

10/12/16/22 has become the new "standard" drum set size, which works well for most styles of rock, blues, country, etc. (12/13/16/22 used to be the standard but that's changed over the years as many felt that 12 and 13" toms are too close sonically)

13/16/24 is considered a "rock" kit, as it's primarily used for hard rock genres. The extra oomph from the 24" kick really works well with an electric bass, while the 13 and 16" toms tuned low add a powerful sound. Oddly enough, these sizes are also common for big band jazz, except everything is tuned considerably higher.

Of course these sizes aren't strict limited to the genres I described above. But it would be odd watching a death metal drummer playing on a bop kit :)
 

IBitePrettyHard

Senior Member
What @TK-421 said.

What styles will you be playing?

An 18" bass is best for jazz, funk, fusion, acoustic, techno, etc... Quieter genres, smaller rooms and venues. 18s are fun to play, and great for portability. They can work for louder styles with proper miking, but...

A 20" bass is great for rock, pop, country, metal.....AND works great for jazz, funk, fusion, acoustic, etc...

So unless you only play quieter genres, smaller rooms, or plan to use as a practice kit, I think a 20" is the winner.
 

rinlow

Active member
What @TK-421 said.

What styles will you be playing?

An 18" bass is best for jazz, funk, fusion, acoustic, techno, etc... Quieter genres, smaller rooms and venues. 18s are fun to play, and great for portability. They can work for louder styles with proper miking, but...

A 20" bass is great for rock, pop, country, metal.....AND works great for jazz, funk, fusion, acoustic, etc...

So unless you only play quieter genres, smaller rooms, or plan to use as a practice kit, I think a 20" is the winner.
I'll be playing primarily funk, rock, dub, ambient.. etc.. in my garage/makeshift studio at lower volumes in a tight space. I think the 20" is a good compromise and i'm using to having a 3 tom configuration. I do like the bop kits, but don't see them offered with the extra tom is a stock configuration.

Thanks for your input.
 
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wildbill

Platinum Member
Looks like that used oyster renown sold. No worries though, as I really want a natural finish. No trying to decide between the 18” kick jazz set or the 20” kick with 10/12/14. Thoughts?.....
Those are both some really nice looking sets.

I'd go for the 20" bass drum. That in combination with the extra tom would give you a lot more flexibility.
If you get the 18" and use a riser with it, you're right at the height of a 20 anyways, but you'd be missing
that tom, and most 18's are a bit lacking if you're looking for a little lower pitch.
The cost of single toms is usually pretty high compared to if you get it as part of a set,
if you think you might want to get one later.
18" bop kits are fun to play. I've had several of them, but a 20" 5 pc. suits me best. YMMV
 

rinlow

Active member
Those are both some really nice looking sets.

I'd go for the 20" bass drum. That in combination with the extra tom would give you a lot more flexibility.
If you get the 18" and use a riser with it, you're right at the height of a 20 anyways, but you'd be missing
that tom, and most 18's are a bit lacking if you're looking for a little lower pitch.
The cost of single toms is usually pretty high compared to if you get it as part of a set,
if you think you might want to get one later.
18" bop kits are fun to play. I've had several of them, but a 20" 5 pc. suits me best. YMMV
Thanks for your input! I received a 20% coupon yesterday and applied it towards the 20" renown 5 piece fusion kit, including the snare, for $1250 in natural finish. Excited! Curious to see if anyone has any feedback on the 14" X 5.5" maple renown snare that comes with the kit? I really appreciate all of the good feedback on this forum! :)
 

TJK

Well-known member
Thanks for your input! I received a 20% coupon yesterday and applied it towards the 20" renown 5 piece fusion kit, including the snare, for $1250 in natural finish. Excited! Curious to see if anyone has any feedback on the 14" X 5.5" maple renown snare that comes with the kit? I really appreciate all of the good feedback on this forum! :)
Nice!
 

d2dadub

Junior Member
Those look like USA Maples... Slightly different line from the 1990's. I had some and they are great! They will cut way more then the Renowns. The Renowns have a duller rounder sound to me...
 

rinlow

Active member
Is anyone attaching a cymbal behind the double tom mount on the fusion kit? Any recommendation on the size of mount for a crash/splash? I have the correct size that came off an existing cymbal stand, but it's super long and doesn't feel that sturdy.
 
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IBitePrettyHard

Senior Member
Nice nice kit !
Why do you prefer the thin snare stand to the bass tom mount ?
I use the snare stand so I can position the rack tom closer and to the left. Bass drum mounts always position the toms a little too far away for my taste, and too far to the right.
 
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