GC Wouldn't Let Me In

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Noisy

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This is for information only since I don’t particularly want to debate the subject.

Yesterday, Sam Ash announced, I got an email, that two Orange County, California branches would be open. Today, they announced four LA county, CA branches would be open. I don’t know how they are able to open these but the Hollywood branches are listed.
<portion of email below>
We are excited to announce that the following Sam Ash locations - will be reopening today:

Sam Ash Music Store Location at Canoga Park, CA
Sam Ash Music Store Location at City Of Industry, CA
Sam Ash Music Store Location at Los Angeles, CA (Hollywood)
Sam Ash Music Store Location at Los Angeles, CA (Hollywood Drum Store)

Our store hours will be 12pm to 7pm every day. The stores are fully stocked with awesome gear that we can’t wait for you to check out. We also want to let you know that we have instituted Enhanced Cleaning Procedures to help keep you and our employees safe and healthy. We are also offering curbside pickup for phone and online orders - call your local store for details.

“Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything” ― Plato

We look forward to seeing you soon.
 

TMe

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The virus may be 1 micron - the droplets carrying it are bigger.
In Canada, we're being asked NOT to buy N95 masks. Every N95 mask I buy is one less that the health care system can get. We're being asked to wear "non-medical" masks to prevent spreading water droplets when we speak loudly, laugh, cough, etc. The non-medical mask is NOT intended to protect the wearer of the mask. It's for the benefit of others.

I understand how the right-wingers are annoyed because wearing a mask has become a form of virtue-signalling but... in this case, the virtue is caring about people other than yourself, and it's real, it's not just political correctness.

But I really don't want to see people screaming at someone who doesn't wear a mask. Not everyone can be as awesome as us. :)
 
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MntnMan62

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Oh really? Remind me again the last time the entire country quarantined for the flu. If we didn't follow social distancing and quarantining the country, do you honestly believe we would have 100,000 deaths right now? Please....🚫
What's your problem? It's simple math to illustrate a point. You're all indignant? Please....🚫
 

TMe

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What's your problem? It's simple math to illustrate a point. You're all indignant? Please....🚫
Check out this animated graph. It looks like a still image at first, but it speeds up. Covid-19 starts at the bottom, but it grabs the inside track, passes influenza, suicide, homicide, malaria and, out in front, corona takes a commanding lead!

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2562261/?fbclid=IwAR2_7oTMb8r3zW7vvXt1gWfML0AQiWdlBvKRAh5-Nbxl9ovTudo-giCNhWI
 
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wildbill

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Oh really? Remind me again the last time the entire country quarantined for the flu. If we didn't follow social distancing and quarantining the country, do you honestly believe we would have 100,000 deaths right now? Please....🚫
Remember though that there is a vaccine for the flu, and here in the US,
very many people get that vaccine every year, and still the death rate from the flu remains high:
 

mesazoo

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MntnMan62

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My point was that there is a vaccine available for the flu, and many people still die from it.

Also, that there is currently no vaccine available for the Corona virus.
What you say is true certainly, however that is an overly simplistic view that doesn't take into account the fact that the Corona Virus can be transmitted whether you are symptomatic or not, has a 14 day incubation period and can survive much longer in external environments than the flu. So, yes, a vaccine is critical to bringing this thing under control, but if it is here to stay, it will likely overtake the flu as a killer even after a vaccine is developed and distributed simply because it is more virulent.
 

AzHeat

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There may never bee a vaccine. There is no flu vaccine, but a flu shot. It's based on best guess scenarios of how we think the virus will mutate. There's never been a vaccine for AIDS for example. The WHO just announced the public shouldn't wear face masks, unless working directly with Covid patients. That's a big switch from their previous position and the one before that and the fact that this thing is, is not transmutable via air, surfaces. It changes weekly. Never been a big fan of the WHO, but I know most eat up every word. Now, time for you all to take yours off, because they said so. There's our age of information at work right there...
 

MrInsanePolack

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Were the employees working at the GC wearing masks. I hope since they were requiring you to.
Yes, the two I saw were wearing masks. Not medical grade, just masks.

I apologize for this thread. I didnt want it to become another Covid discussion. The initial question was should they even bother to be open. I see how and why it devolved, but that was not my intention.
 

C.M. Jones

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Yes, the two I saw were wearing masks. Not medical grade, just masks.

I apologize for this thread. I didnt want it to become another Covid discussion. The initial question was should they even bother to be open. I see how and why it devolved, but that was not my intention.
Don't sweat it, man. Just order online from now on. :)
 

Mr Farkle

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I apologize for this thread. I didnt want it to become another Covid discussion. The initial question was should they even bother to be open. I see how and why it devolved, but that was not my intention.
This has been my favorite live thread since it started. I'm not on any other social media so it's been interesting for me to hear how people are feeling about things. Especially interesting to hear from other musicians.
 
There may never bee a vaccine. There is no flu vaccine, but a flu shot. It's based on best guess scenarios of how we think the virus will mutate. There's never been a vaccine for AIDS for example. The WHO just announced the public shouldn't wear face masks, unless working directly with Covid patients. That's a big switch from their previous position and the one before that and the fact that this thing is, is not transmutable via air, surfaces. It changes weekly. Never been a big fan of the WHO, but I know most eat up every word. Now, time for you all to take yours off, because they said so. There's our age of information at work right there...
Predictably, the reality is significantly more nuanced than the headline:

The World Health Organization issued new guidance this week that may seem confusing to Americans, who have been advised by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to wear cloth face masks in public to help slow the spread of COVID-19.
"If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19," the newly updated WHO guidelines read.
Both organizations are considered to be reliable, authoritative sources of public health information. So why are they offering conflicting guidance on wearing masks during the pandemic?
The answer may come down to practicality, according to Dr. William Schaffner, medical director of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases.
At this point in the United States' outbreak, nearly everyone can find a mask or make one, Schaffner explained, which may not be true in every country around the world, especially countries with fewer resources than the U.S.
Advising universal mask wearing in a place where it's impossible to adhere to that guidance could hurt the WHO's reputation in those countries, he explained.
Another possible risk in places where masks aren't universally available is the potential for health care workers to be unable to get them, leaving them unprotected while caring for sick patients. Earlier in the U.S. outbreak, when masks were scarcer, Surgeon General Jerome Adams told everyday Americans to stop buying masks for this very reason.

"A lot of public heath is how can we take the theory and the science and bring it down the the average person," Schaffner said. "Public health has to be practical. Otherwise it doesn't work."
But, hey, why not play the money beat in every song, even when it's in 9/8? It'll all work out eventually.
 

TMe

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The initial question was should they even bother to be open.
I've been wondering the same thing about a lot of businesses. The sales are so minimal, it's hard to see how it's worth being open. I can't see the math behind the decision, unless the business is getting a big wage subsidy to keep people employed.
 
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