Gavin Harrison here!

JimmyM

Platinum Member
I believe almost all Crash Of Dooms were 20" - the 18" was super rare and I did have one and absolutely loved it (unfortunately I broke it). I asked Zildjian if they would make me some 15" 16" and 17" Crash of Dooms. The 16" is really very nice. It was a prototype project that never went any further. I also have a 22" which surprisingly makes a very interesting ride cymbal.

cheers
Gavin
Wonder why they didn’t market them in at least one of those sizes. 16 seems like it would be a seller, at least. Dilution of the marketplace, perhaps?
 

jnchristp

New Member
Hej Gavin,
just watched your Vic Firth YouTube-Video. Great one, very informative. As I'm not a drummer myself, but like to record and mix, I really enjoyed your mixing advice. I also think one should treat the drum not as many small pieces, but one big instrument.
Just one question: I see you are clipping the logic-meters quiet heavily. Is that okay for you? I'm always concerned about not clipping, because I fear some negative effects. It doesn't bother you?
I'm really looking forward to seeing you again in Berlin this October. Saw you with Pineapple in Hamburg a few years ago and really enjoyed the concert and your playing. Keep it up!
Just an Idea. Maybe you could get Steven to make a kind of session-mixing-video, where he shows a full PT-session? That would be great!
All the best to you
Jan
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Just one question: I see you are clipping the logic-meters quiet heavily. Is that okay for you? I'm always concerned about not clipping, because I fear some negative effects. It doesn't bother you?
yes I used to worry about that too - but it doesn't matter if the individual channels go way into the red as long as the Master channel never goes over zero. Sound On Sound magazine proved this many years ago. They put a sine wave through a channel and added 96db to it so that it blasted way into the red - but they kept the master fader below zero and examined the sine wave against the original sine wave and concluded that there was no distortion at all. Since then I've never worried about it - or heard any clipping.

cheers
Gavin
 

jnchristp

New Member
yes I used to worry about that too - but it doesn't matter if the individual channels go way into the red as long as the Master channel never goes over zero. Sound On Sound magazine proved this many years ago. They put a sine wave through a channel and added 96db to it so that it blasted way into the red - but they kept the master fader below zero and examined the sine wave against the original sine wave and concluded that there was no distortion at all. Since then I've never worried about it - or heard any clipping.

cheers
Gavin
Thanks, Gavin, that's nice to know. And of course: When it sounds good (as your drumsound does) it must be good.
Cheers
Jan
 

dave mc

New Member
yes I do have them on the reso sides as well as the top. Hope you enjoy playing the 12" Protean snare drum !

Cheers
Gavin

Hi Gavin, Thanks so much for your response. I am enjoying it very much and it looks so classy.

I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you could elaborate on how you look at tuning the snare side (reso)head. Once you get the head to finger tight is there some sort of go-to that you use? Like a half turn on each lug? I have been experimenting to reduce sympathetic snare buzz with my toms. Thanks again so much. Dave
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
I was wondering if you could elaborate on how you look at tuning the snare side (reso)head. Once you get the head to finger tight is there some sort of go-to that you use? Like a half turn on each lug? I have been experimenting to reduce sympathetic snare buzz with my toms
I crank it up pretty tight - at least a couple of turns or more. Reducing sympathetic snare buzz with the toms - is mostly about the pitch of the toms v the snare - but you'll never get rid of all of it. Best of luck
cheers
Gavin
 

dave mc

New Member
I crank it up pretty tight - at least a couple of turns or more. Reducing sympathetic snare buzz with the toms - is mostly about the pitch of the toms v the snare - but you'll never get rid of all of it. Best of luck
cheers
Gavin


Thanks so much Gavin for your response. I am having fun reading through this thread. I am a relative new to drums, under 2 years and am enjoying it very much. It is definitely challenging! I love everything you have done and the sound and melody you are able to convey. Wishing you all the best on the PT tour. Take care...Dave
 
How are you Gavin? I hope you are doing alright!

I want to take a moment to clarify a doubt I actually have.

I've seen in your social media accounts and on the official PT website, the kit that you'll be using on the CC tour. It truly is a magnificent kit!
And at the same time I had a concern about the tour that you will do with The Pineapple Thief, will you also take your Sonor kit on tour?

This question is because I'm from Chile, and I would like to know how is this process in which you manage to take your kit to the different stages of the world. For The Pineapple Thief will be the same case that you will take some Sonor kit as you will do with Porcupine Tree? or will you contact with different people or distributors in each country to get some Sonor drums?

I ask this because if you need a Sonor kit for Chile, I could offer you a wide variety of Sonor options. They fit quite well in your standard format.

I'll attach a picture of the kit I'm currently using, which consists of a Sonor SQ2 Maple in 8", 10", 12", 14", 16" and 22" bass drum.
But I also have other quite complete kits of SQ2 editions (acrylics), Sonor Designer, Signature, and others. I also have 15" and 18" floor toms like you also like.

As I said at the beginning this question came up because you will be performing with both bands in my country, and I would like to know how is the process of bringing your kit. And in the case of maybe The Pineapple Thief, if you need any particular kit. I would be honoured to contact you and help you in securing a particular Sonor Kit.

I will look forward to hearing from you,

I really don't know if this is something you have already contemplated or not, and I don't know how this process of being able to carry your personal kits in each country works. But at least I wanted to take advantage of this forum to consult you directly.

Greetings to you!

Joaquín
 

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GalenMusic

Member
Hey Gavin! On "Source" from Rhythmic Illusions, you're soloing over 7+7+5 which the click track outlines, but the notated solo is in 4/4. I assume that's because the following section is 6 repetitions of 19, plus two 7s for 128 beats total - very sneaky! Are you thinking in 4/4 or in the 19/8 structure for this solo? I'm playing it for an LTCL performance qualification, and so it seems nightmarish to play it in 4/4 while the click is working against me so hard, but I thought I'd better not re-record the click to suit me if you've got a better way of perceiving the section.

There's also an extra 2/4 but I assume that's to take the song back to the chorus.
 
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Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
I've seen in your social media accounts and on the official PT website, the kit that you'll be using on the CC tour. It truly is a magnificent kit!
And at the same time I had a concern about the tour that you will do with The Pineapple Thief, will you also take your Sonor kit on tour?

This question is because I'm from Chile, and I would like to know how is this process in which you manage to take your kit to the different stages of the world. For The Pineapple Thief will be the same case that you will take some Sonor kit as you will do with Porcupine Tree? or will you contact with different people or distributors in each country to get some Sonor drums?
For this 2022 Porcupine Tree tour I'll be using my "Tribal Yellow Stripe" Sonor set as we have the budget to bring all our equipment from the UK and we will bring it to Mexico and Chile. I do aslo have a "Blue Tribal" set that I keep in the USA for the tours that I make with Pineapple Thief/King Crimson (and for any other reason). On tours with smaller budgets - it's not always possible to bring the drums out of the country - so at that point local Sonor distributors (in the other countries that we are playing) can provide a set for me. Thanks for your kind offer anyway !

Hey Gavin! On "Source" from Rhythmic Illusions, you're soloing over 7+7+5 which the click track outlines, but the notated solo is in 4/4. I assume that's because the following section is 6 repetitions of 19, plus two 7s for 128 beats total - very sneaky! Are you thinking in 4/4 or the structure for this solo?
To be honest I can't remember why - probably I was thinking of the solo in 4/4 rather than 19/8 - and knowing what I'm like I probably had a 'marker click' counting me back into the next section !

best of luck
Gavin
 
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GalenMusic

Member
Fair, in that case I'll probably sneakily adjust the click and wing it from there!
To be honest I can't remember why - probably I was thinking of the solo in 4/4 rather than 19/8 - and knowing what I'm like I probably had a 'marker click' counting me back into the next section !

best of luck
Gavin
 

SalvadorDDVS

Junior Member
Hello Gavin, I wanted to ask what snare stand you use and how it stays so steady despite how hard/loud you play. Mine seems to move playing anything really heavy. Also looking forward to PT in Boston and New York next week!

- Salvador
 

Kakariki

Junior Member
Killer show in Toronto, Gavin. Your drums sounded great, as always!

Gotta ask, did I see your left foot come up to turn on the snare during Anesthesize? How did you come up with doing that? Amazing performance, btw.
 

Liam

Active Member
Hi Gavin,

Saw you last night in Toronto, you and the band put on a great show. The drums and band were sounding great.

I am hoping you could answer what you and the band do when you have the break part way through the show? Do you do anything to cool down? Also on tour, do you bring spare cymbals or do you go out and buy a new one if one breaks?

Thanks
Liam
 
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spelman

Senior Member
Killer show in Toronto, Gavin. Your drums sounded great, as always!

Gotta ask, did I see your left foot come up to turn on the snare during Anesthesize? How did you come up with doing that? Amazing performance, btw.
Sorry to interrupt, but watch Jojo Mayers left foot here:
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Gotta ask, did I see your left foot come up to turn on the snare during Anesthesize? How did you come up with doing that? Amazing performance, btw.
yes - it's quite an easy thing to do with the Sonor Dual-Glide snare throw-off. I wanted to play the whole first section with the snares off (so the toms sound clean) but I need to get the snares back on without interrupting the flow of the tom pattern. I suppose I could turn it on with my knee - but I sit a long way back from the drums.

I am hoping you could answer what you and the band do when you have the break part way through the show? Do you do anything to cool down?
Last night in the break I had a coffee (jet lag is still getting the better of me).

cheers
Gavin
 

Doraemon

Well-known Member
Hi Gavin,

Amazing show at Radio City! What a huge setlist, I can't image the energy such a tour requires, but am most thankful! The show - music and images - was so captivating I even forgot about staring at your gorgeous new kit most of the time. They sounded great.
Radio City was a fitting, classy place, but I think a lot of people would enjoy moving to the music a bit more wildly - do you intentionally play at sitting-only venues? One of the most memorable songs for me was Chimera's Wreck with its background movie. I hope it will become a music video.. I was also wondering about your side toms: are they the same as the originals or have different sizes, tunings or heads?
I hope your jetlag is getting better and/or you have access to some good coffee on the road. :)

Dora
 
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Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi Dora
glad you enjoyed the show ! I think all of the shows are seated - not really our preference - but something necessary for the different pricing of the seats. This is something the promoters really wanted - and I understand why. The side toms are all quite shallow drums 8x7 10x7 12x7 with Remo C.S heads just for a different sound.

cheers
Gavin
 
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