Gavin Harrison here!

euphoric_anomaly

Senior Member
Gavin,

Your wikipedia page sent me racing to YouTube to hear your work on 'Belighted' by IamtheMorning. I was just wondering, as an average estimate, how long does it take to record your parts and send them back out to be mixed/mastered with the rest of the band? I can only imagine the 100's of variables that need to be factored in (personal free time, recording time, putting aside other projects etc).

Great work by the way, I always find inspiration in just about everything I hear you play. No matter how discouragingly difficult it may be for me to even air-drum it.

Thanks :D
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi keep it simple

have you ever tried monitoring bass guitar through your tactile monitoring seat? I've tried it a few times, even when sufficient audible monitoring has been available. It's surprisingly effective :)


I can't say i have. I'll bear it mind though. Thanks.

Hi Dustondrums

what equipment do you usually take with you to your clinics (except mixing console, Macbook, Porter & Davies and drumsticks) - cymbals/pedals/stands (or clamps) etc. ?


I usually can't take cymbals, pedals or stands with me. As nearly all the clinics I do involve a flight at some point - it comes down to the cost of excess baggage in the end.

Hi Venimal

Have you ever had a chance to play a Sonor Ascent drum kit? I'm in the market for a new kit, Right now I have a Pearl Vision Birch kit I got from The Drum Pad in Chicago. So, I've wanted a Sonor kit ever since I saw the prolite kit introduction, though the price tag has me at a pause. However, hearing the Ascent series online and reading what people have said about it has got me interested. The question I'm asking myself is, save a wait a few months, or get an Ascent with an extra floor tom next month. It will be more for live playing then recording, though I do hope that'll change later next year.

I played one the other day and it was very good. Not in the class of the "Made In Germany" drums though. If budget is a factor maybe consider finding a second hand DeLight (which are almost exactly the same as the ProLite range).

Hi euphoric_anomaly

Your wikipedia page sent me racing to YouTube to hear your work on 'Belighted' by IamtheMorning. I was just wondering, as an average estimate, how long does it take to record your parts and send them back out to be mixed/mastered with the rest of the band? I can only imagine the 100's of variables that need to be factored in (personal free time, recording time, putting aside other projects etc).

It depends. If the tracks I have to play to are all in good shape I can do a song (or even two) a day and send back a mix of the drums. Sometimes the songs are easy 4 minute pop songs and other times they are 17 minute 'prog' epics. 90% of folks just want me to do whatever I feel is right for the music. Some folks already have a quite accurate idea of what they want on the song. Sometimes they're on the other side of the world so it can take time for them to answer and respond.

Cheers
Gavin
 

SimonBrekke

Junior Member
Hi!

I am learning Bonnie The Cat at school right now from your Rhythmic Composition book. Is it possible to get a version of the song without the drums? This would be very helpful and fun to play along to.
Thanks!
 

Andy

Administrator
Staff member
Hi keep it simple


I can't say i have. I'll bear it mind though. Thanks.


Cheers
Gavin
Just a thought :) I found it particularly useful on one gig where mirroring some big dynamic changes in bass guitar parts with my bass drum dynamic was challenging.
 

Florsky

Junior Member
Hello Gavin!
Could you reveal which kind of shells you use on your SQ2? Is it Maple, Birch...? Vintage, Medium or Heavy? Or do you use different shells for big/small toms and BD? (I couldn't find it on your equipment-page)
I wish you great x-mas!
Cheers, Flo
 

Venimal

Junior Member
Hi keep it simple


Hi Venimal

Have you ever had a chance to play a Sonor Ascent drum kit? I'm in the market for a new kit, Right now I have a Pearl Vision Birch kit I got from The Drum Pad in Chicago. So, I've wanted a Sonor kit ever since I saw the prolite kit introduction, though the price tag has me at a pause. However, hearing the Ascent series online and reading what people have said about it has got me interested. The question I'm asking myself is, save a wait a few months, or get an Ascent with an extra floor tom next month. It will be more for live playing then recording, though I do hope that'll change later next year.

I played one the other day and it was very good. Not in the class of the "Made In Germany" drums though. If budget is a factor maybe consider finding a second hand DeLight (which are almost exactly the same as the ProLite range).

Gavin


Thanks for the advice. I do have lots of time to think about it. Only thing that has me down on the Prolite kits now is, the finishes don't really grab me at the moment. The Tribal Red is an exception, but they don't seem to sell it anymore. Though, the creme white does look really nice, as well as the ebony stripes. Though, and I did put this idea in my head... Ascent shell pack with a prolite snare, or protean snare. I'll be honest, you do a really good job in selling that one on the videos I've seen on it. Not to mention the rave reviews.

Also, while searching youtube videos on Sonor kits, I found this...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7U0nfT8w4A

You look VERY tiny in this video! Really cool to see!

Cheers! And thanks again! Next time you come to the US, if you swing by Houston, San Antonio or Austin for a clinic or a show, I'll be there!
 

formula428

Member
Hello Gavin,

Do you currently, or have you ever waxed the bearing edges of your Sonor drums? If so, why did you start and what has been your conclusion? If not, why haven't you and/or what do you think of applying wax to the bearing edges?

Thanks!
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi Florsky

Could you reveal which kind of shells you use on your SQ2? Is it Maple, Birch...? Vintage, Medium or Heavy? Or do you use different shells for big/small toms and BD? (I couldn't find it on your equipment-page)

On my most recent 'blue tribal' set they're all maple 'medium' shells except the bass drum which is 'heavy' shell. My previous set had 'thin' rack toms - 'medium' floor toms and 'heavy bass drum. I can't honestly hear much difference. I've played quite a few of the 'vintage' shells too (which are the thinest of all the Sonor shells) and they sounded great too. I still have an older Designer kit that I really like the sound of - so that's why I wanted to move back to 'medium' shells.


Hi formula428

Do you currently, or have you ever waxed the bearing edges of your Sonor drums? If so, why did you start and what has been your conclusion? If not, why haven't you and/or what do you think of applying wax to the bearing edges?

I don't currently apply wax to any of the bearing edges. I did go through a period of applying wax to the snare drum edge - but I can't tell you that I heard or felt a noticable difference.

Cheers and happy New Year to you all !!!!
Gavin
 

euphoric_anomaly

Senior Member
Hi Gavin
This is more of a AH HA! moment being shared rather than a direct question.
I was listening to 5/4 from iamthemorning and noticed something that caught my ear. Between 2:54-3:33, I noticed that you played the downbeat (snare) starting on beat 4. Next bar it was on 5, then a bar without snare followed by the next bar starting with the snare on the 1 and so forth. I counted out 16 bars.

Thanks for the brain exercise. Belighted is an amazing album by the way, can't stop listening to it.

Eric
 
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Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi euphoric_anomaly

I was listening to 5/4 from iamthemorning and noticed something that caught my ear. Between 2:54-3:33, I noticed that you played the downbeat (snare) starting on beat 4. Next bar it was on 5, then a bar without snare followed by the next bar starting with the snare on the 1 and so forth. I counted out 16 bars.

Despite the song being called "5/4" it's not all in 5/4 time signature. The passage that you picked out is actually in 6. No wonder it felt strange to you if you were counting 5 throughout it!! I have in past (and probably will in the future) mis-heard something and felt the rhythm in a certain way. Especially some downbeats have illuded me on certain recordings. Such is the perception of rhythm (and what led to my study of the Rhythmic Illusion).

cheers
Gavin
 

sal_tpa

Junior Member
Marco Minnemann posted that he will not be performing with Steven Wilson during the US/Canada leg of the Hand. Cannot. Erase. tour. Will you be performing with Steven?
 
Hey Gavin! Hope all is well. Firstly, I just wanted to thank you for being my biggest musical inspiration and devoting your time here to answer all these questions. Just a quick question, what is your favourite pre In Absentia PT song to play?

Thanks for your time,

Quinn
 
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alparrott

Platinum Member
Hey Gavin! Hope all is well. Firstly, I just wanted to thank you for being my biggest musical inspiration and devoting your time here to answer all these questions. Just a quick question, what is your favourite pre In Absentia PT song to play?

Thanks for your time,

Quinn
Actually, to hopscotch on LBS's question: Out of all the stuff you've been doing the last few years (05Ric, PT, King Crimson), what have been your favorite songs? Any old gems pop up that you "rediscovered" ("Oh man, I forgot how fun that song is to play" or "Wow, that has that tricky bit I'd forgotten")?
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi Lightbulb_Sun

what is your favourite pre In Absentia PT song to play?

Hatesong was always good fun - Buying New Soul, Even Less (we played the long unedited version a couple of times) and many others.

Hi alparrott

Out of all the stuff you've been doing the last few years (05Ric, PT, King Crimson), what have been your favorite songs? Any old gems pop up that you "rediscovered" ("Oh man, I forgot how fun that song is to play" or "Wow, that has that tricky bit I'd forgotten")?

hard to nail it down to just one song as my choice changed over the tours.

With Ric I always enjoyed playing "Life"
With PT - Sound Of Muzak was good fun
With KC - ConstruKction of Light

Meanwhile some news on a project that I've been working on for the last 5 years. An album of Porcupine Tree songs arranged for modern contemporary big band. (I'll post a sampler of it soon and see if you can work out what the song titles are). I'm sure most people will find it quite surprising. It will be released early April on Kscope Records. Over 14 guys play on this record and they're some of the best in the world.
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cheers
Gavin
 

Andy

Administrator
Staff member
Meanwhile some news on a project that I've been working on for the last 5 years. An album of Porcupine Tree songs arranged for modern contemporary big band. (I'll post a sampler of it soon and see if you can work out what the song titles are). I'm sure most people will find it quite surprising. It will be released early April on Kscope Records. Over 14 guys play on this record and they're some of the best in the world.

cheers
Gavin
Now that is absolutely tantalising! Did you change up drum sizes / tunings to match the vibe?
 

K_HiHats

Member
Hey Gavin!

Firstly I'd just like to mention how amped I am for the release of your PT jazz album. I've been waiting for this since I heard Futile in big band form. And depending on how early in April you release it, it'll probably make a good birthday present for me no matter when it comes out. So excited.

Quick backstory on my question of the day. I was at a local show supporting a friend's band last week, and after they were done playing I went up to their drummer to compliment them and get a better look at a couple of their smaller effects cymbals. One of them he had inverted atop a crash. It was a 7" Stagg bell. To my surprise he told me he didn't really use it and asked if I wanted it. So I gave him $20 and went on my way. (2nd cheapest cymbal I've ever bought!) When I got it home, I mounted it up on my drum set and went to work analyzing which of your prototype crash bells it was closer to in sound because I intended to use it as such. To my surprise, it more closely sounded akin to your 9" crash bell despite its 7" size.

Here's where the question comes in. In my listening process, I came across one of your tunes with 05Ric, Sometime (quite a beautiful song, I must say). While intensely listening for your crash bells, I noticed on the second chorus that the cymbal you hit on beat two every bar did not sound like any cymbals I'm used to hearing from you. It didn't sound like your 7" or 9" crash bells, nor was it the 8" bell you use for Sailing, because you actually hit that one at the end of that chorus. This cymbal sounds splashy. So, I'm wondering if you take a listen back to that section if you could identify what cymbal I'm hearing on beat two every bar.

Here is the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZMJGsEdInM How convenient that this song was on Youtube. The second chorus starts at 4:36.

I included a couple images below. On the left is the 7" Stagg bell, and the right is an 8" EFX #1 (one of my favorite effects cymbals you've ever used, I just adore its sound). Physically, the Stagg bell looks fairly similar to your crash bells, as does the EFX #1 when inverted.
Also you'll see a picture of a Protean snare below. That's because I got one for Christmas. The 12x5 model, in fact. LOVING IT! :)

Thanks as always for answering, and for designing the most wonderful snare drum.
Cheers -- Peter
 

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