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Overg

Senior Member
B is always an "easy" and recognizable groove, that's why the listener will most likely fall into that. But it will be a wrong pulse! You're placing the notes of the easy groove in an unusual way, and although the listener recognizes the pattern, it leads to a wrong tempo and pulse, the quarter note he hears isn't the actual one.
Of course you can - as a player - hear the same thing too, but you mustn't be tricked into the fake time signature by your own playing.
I hope maybe that clears it up a bit...? Otherwise you should Gavin's book aside, take up an easier one and go back to Gavin's in some time ;).
THANKS YOU!
now it is crystal clear.

I was afraid to bother Gavin again :) ( it seems that he didn't understand the root of my prob.. and we were going around in circle, can;t blame him though he probably too busy to dwell on this :) )
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi pedro_

also, i was listening your album "Drop" ( i don't have Circles yet... is really hard to get one from here... Peru ) ... I heard the song "for lack of" and I was fascinated by it. the completed recording is simply great! i love it.


Thanks - it is available here http://www.burningshed.com/store/gavinharrison/
or iTunes too.


: How did you manage the situation to compose that kind of songs?
i mean... ric with his elegant extended range bass and you in the drums.... a kind of improvisation????


Some of the songs actually started with the drum rhythm other times it was a bass or guitar idea and I figured out a drum rhythm that I would like to go with those. I suppose they all began with some kind of improvisation - but that was on my own. I don't know exactly how Ric generates his ideas but I imagine it's a similar method to myself of picking up an instrument and just keep playing until something you like comes out. I guess that's when you intellectually edit your own ideas - applying your own personal style and taste.

When I'm just jamming on the drums I'm quite aware of what I've played before - and what I think are cliche ideas - and so I try to invite unusual things into my playing. I love it if I play something that doesn't sound like me.

cheers
Gavin
 

leftyrightplayer

Junior Member
Hi Gav!

Just registered on here so thought I would send you a message. As you can guess by my name im left handed but play right handed. Is that unusual? I chose to play right when I started 12 years ago, only as I didnt want to be a pain in the backside at gigs. My left is my strong side and my right is ok but not up to scratch. Any excercises I can do to balance both sides out?

Oh n one last question for now, my double pedal attachment rod for my iron cobras has play in it, Even tho I use it sparingly in music like you. A new one is £80! Can I get a cheaper one? Money is a lil non exsistent atm...

Cheers for now,

You are an inspiration - Chaz
 

smemz

Junior Member
Hey Gavin, I have been an avid fan of yout playing for years, all the PT stuff and I think I have watched just about every video of you on youtube. Especially Slippin' Away which is perhaps my favourite piece of yours.
Out of all the questions I could possibly ask, I have been dying to know how you made your custom splashes, like how you cut the old cymbals down and things like that? I am quite interested in the idea and would like to make my own but I would like a bit of help first!
Thanks for the years of contribution to my playing.
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi leftyrightplayer

As you can guess by my name im left handed but play right handed. Is that unusual? I chose to play right when I started 12 years ago, only as I didnt want to be a pain in the backside at gigs. My left is my strong side and my right is ok but not up to scratch. Any excercises I can do to balance both sides out?

It's not that unusual. Do you play left lead? I think that's quite an advantage for a lefty to play on a right kit (as Simon Phillips/Billy Cobham do).

Oh n one last question for now, my double pedal attachment rod for my iron cobras has play in it, Even tho I use it sparingly in music like you. A new one is £80! Can I get a cheaper one? Money is a lil non exsistent atm...

I have no idea.

Hi smemz

Out of all the questions I could possibly ask, I have been dying to know how you made your custom splashes, like how you cut the old cymbals down and things like that?

have a look at this post from earlier in this thread...
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=246160&postcount=507

...but I must warn you about the dangers of doing this. In fact I showed this method to an engineer friend of mine - and he freaked out and told me it was very dangerous - so I have stopped doing it. I found a local blacksmith who has cut down cymbals for me - it's obviously more expensive - but definitely worth it.

cheers
Gavin
 

C.L. - Drum

Junior Member
Hey Gavin,

I want to buy me a Sonor SQ². Do you think, that that set is good for playing
Jazz, Funk, but also Progressive Rock or Metal ??

best regards
C.L. - Drum

PS: You are the best!! ;-)
 
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NeuroAxis

Member
...but I must warn you about the dangers of doing this. In fact I showed this method to an engineer friend of mine - and he freaked out and told me it was very dangerous - so I have stopped doing it. I found a local blacksmith who has cut down cymbals for me - it's obviously more expensive - but definitely worth it.
Did he mention why it was dangerous? I recently replaced my whole cymbal lineup so I was planning on cutting down all my old ones into little chimes. Was it perhaps all the little shards of metal that would probably fly off once you smoothed the edges down against the emory cloth?

I was going to follow your method described in that thread but my electrician friend suggested using a bench grinder to smooth down the edges instead of attaching them to a drill and running them on emory cloth.
 

Fox622003

Gold Member
A lot more shards of metal will come off with a bench grinder, and unless you're extremely careful, you're possibly going to heavily damage the cymbal :-/ I can see how it can take way less time than using sand paper, but the result of sand paper is worth it, besides, it's a lot more difficult to get a perfect shape with the bench grinder.
I'd still recommend, as Gavin suggested, turning to an expert who will have both the tools and the expertise to do it not only better, but also safer.
Hope that helps!

Fox.
 

trysthedrummer

Senior Member
We've got the right tools at work. I tried it with a metal bit for a jigsaw and used that (after drilling a hole near the bell). Finish off on the grinder and sand the edges off. Obviously use eye protection when using drills and grinding machines. The second one I just gave it to a mate who's dad was an engineer, came back nicely cut and cleaned up!
 

Gavin Harrison

DRUMMERWORLD PRO DRUMMER
Hi C.L. - Drum

I want to buy me a Sonor SQ². Do you think, that that set is good for playing
Jazz, Funk, but also Progressive Rock or Metal ??


Absolutely - there are very versatile drums.

Hi NeuroAxis

Did he mention why it was dangerous? I recently replaced my whole cymbal lineup so I was planning on cutting down all my old ones into little chimes. Was it perhaps all the little shards of metal that would probably fly off once you smoothed the edges down against the emory cloth?

To have the cymbal attached to a hand held drill on a make shift spindle is dangerous. If it became loose and flew off it would be going at incredible speed - enough to take your head off. I would recommend that you find a blacksmith - it will also take out all the hard work of cutting and sanding and he'll do a much more accurate job too.

cheers
Gavin
 

Trip McNealy

Gold Member
When I'm just jamming on the drums I'm quite aware of what I've played before - and what I think are cliche ideas - and so I try to invite unusual things into my playing. I love it if I play something that doesn't sound like me.

cheers
Gavin
I'm glad you and I share the same sentiments :)
 

Fox622003

Gold Member
Hey Gavin, I'm really new at home recording, so I'm pretty much clueless, but would you recommend getting a really good sound card (one with 8+ inputs) and connecting the mics directly to the inputs? or getting a say, decent sound card and a good mixer, regulate from there, and have all the mics in just one track in the PC?
Thanks in advance, hope I'm not *that* clueless as to my question making little sense :p.

Fox.
 

tommykry

Junior Member
Hi All! First i would like to say that the fact that one of the worlds most creative and tastfull and talented Drummers, from one of the coolest bands on the earth takes his pesonal time to log on and answer peoples questions and gives expert advise is absolutly Insane, and im thankful for artists like this, that share valuable information so others can learn and hopfully become better musicians or better song writers or better people or whatever. What Gavin offers here is so much more then just musical advice, its inspiration and also very kind of him to do so. Im not a drummer but find his playing style and sound incredible!
Anyway here are my 3 questions:

1. My whole band and I ( sound tech, and stage people also ) Purchased tickets to see your show at The Moore Theatre, Tuesday September 15, 2009 in Seattle Wa, Why are you guys playing the Moore and not The Paramount? i think last time you were here it was the Paramount? And will you guys be supporting a new studio CD for this tour?

2. If you know or remember, On the Arriving somewhere live DVD recoding in Chicago, Were you using only one mic on the kick drum (sm91?) or 2 mics, i read your Faq and i think it says you use 2 in the studio but only one live, the kick sound on the live DVD is a perfect kick sound to me. And do you still only use one mic in the kick for live today or 2 mics?

3. If you know or rememer What kind of vocal mics are Steven and John using on the Arriving somewhere live DVD?
Thanks for your time, and we are looking foward to your show here in Seattle this summer!
Peace!
Tommy
 

pedro_

Junior Member
[...] When I'm just jamming on the drums I'm quite aware of what I've played before - and what I think are cliche ideas - and so I try to invite unusual things into my playing. I love it if I play something that doesn't sound like me.

cheers
Gavin
hello there, (again) Gavin.
wow, that is really great.

let me tell you something about me... i don't really have got a drumset at home... well really nowhere... (i should buy one... shouldn't i?)... i don't know if my method is stupid but it's useful to me.... when i am with friends... i try to create a rhythm with my mouth... and my hands... really economic!. then.. when i go to the studio ... i do the same thing i did before with my mouth.. but now on the drums...

anyway... i will buy my drumset.... and your new album.... too

good luck gavin.
Pedro.
 
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