G14 / G plus…Thoughts?

areFish

Silver Member
I'm thinking of trying Evans clear G14 (when available) over G plus on my toms. Does that sound like a good idea on paper for full volume and good bottom end? Maybe G1 resos on the rack toms and G plus resos on the FTs instead.
 

Winston_Wolf

Platinum Member
I've never heard of G14 but I'm guessing they're 14mil thick?

I've tried the EC1, which was also 14mil, and I didn't like the sound or the stick response on smaller toms. Very clunky and not a lot of tone.

I've used G-Plus top and bottom before, and I liked that combo a lot, but the smallest tom on that particular kit was 12"...

If you're looking for more bottom end I'd suggest either G2 or G-Plus over EC Reso. The EC Reso is a great bottom head and useful for getting a lower pitch out of your toms.
 

Winston_Wolf

Platinum Member
Thanks for the link!

Looks like I guessed correctly; 14mil single ply head. I'm really pleased Evans is offering these in white coated versions and leaving the frost coating behind.
 

EvansSpecialist

Silver Member
The G14 has a slightly darker tone than the G Plus, and has greater durability. While remaining a single-ply drumhead, it has projects quite well and has a wide dynamic range. We hope to have these available in stores within the next 1-2 months.

Cheers!
 

areFish

Silver Member
The G14 has a slightly darker tone than the G Plus, and has greater durability. While remaining a single-ply drumhead, it has projects quite well and has a wide dynamic range. We hope to have these available in stores within the next 1-2 months.

Cheers!
Thank you for the info!
 

Doug Masters

Silver Member
The G14 has a slightly darker tone than the G Plus, and has greater durability. While remaining a single-ply drumhead, it has projects quite well and has a wide dynamic range. We hope to have these available in stores within the next 1-2 months.

Cheers!
Wasn't the EC1 a 14mil single ply head? If so, other than the lack of a edge control ring, is this virtually the same?
Thx
 

EvansSpecialist

Silver Member
Wasn't the EC1 a 14mil single ply head? If so, other than the lack of a edge control ring, is this virtually the same?
Thx
Yes, the EC1 was a 14mil single-ply. The construction of the G14 is different though and allows for more resonance and projection. Removing the edge control further enhances this.
 

GruntersDad

Administrator - Mayor
Staff member
I was ready to buy new G2 clear for the first time but will wait for the new G14. I will need 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 so I can report on these for the forum. Saving my dollars 'til then.
 

Birdman

Member
I'm definitely waiting on the clear G14's to hit the streets for my 16" floor tom(reso too!). I'm thinking go going G1's on the 10", G plus(to now be called the "G12", right?) on the 12", and maybe the G14 on the 14 & 16 floor toms (all paired w/ their match on the reso. 2007 Starclassic Bubinga).

Please let us know when the G14's are shipping! Thanks.

P.S. Dear Evan's Specialist -- stop the semi monkey business w/ the 7 mil (7.5 mil?) reso bass heads. Give us at least 10 mil thick resos (they sound deeper) w/ built in mufflers. Right now and for some time, I found nothing I like in the evans' line for reso kick heads. Either ported (yuck) or flimsy 7 mil(high frequency(thumbs down)). Hence I am using EQ4 on batter and reso (that matching theme again). Some nice boom, but serious bottom (you don't need Gatzen's, I'm a fan, constant advice of having something thrown in the shell at least.). No "boing" aspect at all on the bubinga kick. None. But, it doesn't look especially good. My wish -- a nice warm cream color coated Evans head, w/ internal muffler ring or even better a 12 mil version... or dare I say a 14 mil version... which of course begs when is the G14MAD rolling out.... after all the industry is figuring out that two plies don't really cut it. One ply thick (12mil,14mil) are win wins - durability and deeper tones w/out(!) sacrificing volume (every young zit faced drummer will line up for that). Please put this is the "strong suggestion" box for thicker kick reso heads, like yesterday! ;)
 
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EvansSpecialist

Silver Member
I'm definitely waiting on the clear G14's to hit the streets for my 16" floor tom(reso too!). I'm thinking go going G1's on the 10", G plus(to now be called the "G12", right?) on the 12", and maybe the G14 on the 14 & 16 floor toms (all paired w/ their match on the reso. 2007 Starclassic Bubinga).

Please let us know when the G14's are shipping! Thanks.

P.S. Dear Evan's Specialist -- stop the semi monkey business w/ the 7 mil (7.5 mil?) reso bass heads. Give us at least 10 mil thick resos (they sound deeper) w/ built in mufflers. Right now and for some time, I found nothing I like in the evans' line for reso kick heads. Either ported (yuck) or flimsy 7 mil(high frequency(thumbs down)). Hence I am using EQ4 on batter and reso (that matching theme again). Some nice boom, but serious bottom (you don't need Gatzen's, I'm a fan, constant advice of having something thrown in the shell at least.). No "boing" aspect at all on the bubinga kick. None. But, it doesn't look especially good. My wish -- a nice warm cream color coated Evans head, w/ internal muffler ring or even better a 12 mil version... or dare I say a 14 mil version... which of course begs when is the G14MAD rolling out.... after all the industry is figuring out that two plies don't really cut it. One ply thick (12mil,14mil) are win wins - durability and deeper tones w/out(!) sacrificing volume (every young zit faced drummer will line up for that). Please put this is the "strong suggestion" box for thicker kick reso heads, like yesterday! ;)
Thanks for the feedback! I'll definitely take this to note. I'm going to be experimenting with some bass drum designs in the near future too. Cheers!
 

Birdman

Member
Thanks for the feedback! I'll definitely take this to note. I'm going to be experimenting with some bass drum designs in the near future too. Cheers!
Yep, you know where this trend ("win/win") is now going... might as well fast track it.... and beat your competition to it.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
One guys opinion, I had an EC1 and I removed the tone control stickies with a blow dryer leaving me with a clear 14 mil single ply head. The thicker head changes the attack qualities and the overall tone. Whether or not you prefer it is individual, I did not. I didn't prefer the G-12's either. The frequencies that a 10 mil head renders sounds just right to my ear. I wish they made a 9.5 mil head for more attack. 7.5 mil dents too easily and doesn't have the sustain I like.
 

Birdman

Member
yeah but no sound samples :-(

I'm sure they're working on it though!
Saw that too. And it's nice to know their sound samples are very accurate in what I hear. Everything "sounds" darn close to what I hear (though I am not sure about where they have everything lined up on the spectrum). Larry, that's why I am attracted to the Gplus and more. I really like what I am hearing compared to the G1's I use (clear heads), less boingy, deeper tone, and certainly as much sustain or more if you believe physics.
 

GruntersDad

Administrator - Mayor
Staff member
I was surprised that the price to buy from the Evans Store wasn't out of line. Not bad actually

I wrote to Evans and asked them to stop "teasing" with all of the info and no product yet and got this response


Hello Johnny

Thank you for your interest in Evans Drumheads.

We're not "Teasing"! We need lead time to make them in suitable quantities of each size, for a new product.

They'll be available very soon.

Hope you like them!
Steve Lobmeier
Consumer Relations
Evans Drumheads/HQ/Puresound/Pro Mark
 
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GruntersDad

Administrator - Mayor
Staff member
Well the tease is over. Both Cascio and Drumfactorydirect have the G14 in stock and I have my set ordered. They will ship Monday. 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16 on the way and I will do a recording when I get them mounted.
 
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