Flat chinese

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Ok so I prefer china cymbals be mounted with flanged side out bell down opposite crashes and rides, but what do I do with this?
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Bite the bullet and play it as A RIDE

that's not a Flat Chinese
Flat Chinese haven't a Cup.
I see a Cup.
I may be wrong won't be 1st time
😁

Or is that what Sabian called a Pang?
 
That looks more like a pang to me but if you want to play it bell side down maybe put it at a slightly steeper angle than you normally would a typical china.
 
looks like a pang to me as well....and I would use it asa crash AND ride...

and would probably instinctively mount it "upside down" like a traditional ride....
 
Yeah, that's what Sabian called a Pang. I guess especially in those early-ish years they were stuck wanting to make things they had made when they were still a part of Zildjian but not wanting to infringe on any trademarks.

As far as the question at hand; what to do with it? Hit it with a stick! Seriously though, try playing it as a crash and as a ride, both turned one way and the other. Cymbals are pretty good at letting you know how they want to be used...
 
Just play it upright. It's a pang by any measure.
I wish Paiste would make something like this. I use a big China Type as a China-ride nowadays, but it's just a bit too loud and "exotic" (actually should be "domestic" to a Chinese like me), and there's no bell.
 
Yeah, that's what Sabian called a Pang. I guess especially in those early-ish years they were stuck wanting to make things they had made when they were still a part of Zildjian but not wanting to infringe on any trademarks.
and could have been a one to one brother to brother thing "Bob knew Pang wasn't a word he came up with Armand was .. :)

altho innovation between them was probably split even 50/50
always got the 'sense' Bob thought he was the smarter but Armand to me had the greatest cymbal saying ever...
 
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You guys notice it says "Flat Chinese" right on the cymbal?
My concern playing it like a crash is the edge is much thinner and looks completely like I will crack the thing, if I strike it, mounted the as a crash or ride. I know it is a personal preference, just wanted to hear from the experts here.

btw it is a 16"
 
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Of course we can read Flat Chinese.
The flat applies to the edge
calling it "Flat Edge Chinese" was voted down in early Monday morning meetings ; )

"we can't make better cymbals only different ones"
- Armand Zildjian

"the tester's don't listen for what is there they listen for what isn't there"
 
If you leave out the "saying"
the saying he's quoted with is
"we can't make better cymbals only different ones"
- Armand Zildjian
that to me is saying everything they know and do well is present in a 20" Medium Ride
everything after is just variant
 
Here's me and my ignorance, FWIW. Would it sound any different if played bell up or bell down?

Again, FWIW, I'd probably mount it tilted somewhat toward the throne (or intended angle of stick attack) - thinking that if I strike the edge, it wouldn't direct the force of the stick back into the cymbal body too much (if that makes sense). Pictures here make it look like only the extreme outer edge is flat, so it probably wouldn't matter if you didn't intend to strike the bow or bell. But if it crashes or has a usable bell, I'd hang it "bell up."

Either way, I hope it "fits" in your cymbal family. Have fun!
 
I have an 18" that I've had forever. I always mount it like a ride cymbal. FWIW, I have two rivets in it and it is the PERFECT jazz swish/pang sound.
 
I once had an 18" sabian aa fast chinese, that was perfect, hard to find another like it. I am ultimately planning on a 16"' china on the left and an 18" on the right both high up and mounted with only a slight degree off of being vertical, but I think this one will stay in the bag or go somewhere among the crashes. There might be just enough flange to play it like I would a china on the inside. Thanks for all the replies ya'll
 
Here's me and my ignorance, FWIW. Would it sound any different if played bell up or bell down?

Again, FWIW, I'd probably mount it tilted somewhat toward the throne (or intended angle of stick attack) - thinking that if I strike the edge, it wouldn't direct the force of the stick back into the cymbal body too much (if that makes sense). Pictures here make it look like only the extreme outer edge is flat, so it probably wouldn't matter if you didn't intend to strike the bow or bell. But if it crashes or has a usable bell, I'd hang it "bell up."

Either way, I hope it "fits" in your cymbal family. Have fun!
My current family, the 2nd hat is under the top hat. Just realized my 17" sabian aa crash is not pictured there. So there is that one more.
 

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