First attempt at recording

konaboy

Pioneer Member
Hey all,

Bought an L12 a couple months ago and of course life got in the way for a bit. Got a chance to do a little recording the other day. Figured since it's Christmas I'd do a couple of my favorite songs that are mash ups by two different artists. Have some work to do on lighting, mic placement and getting familiar with mixing. All in all I think they turned out not too bad

L12 for audio, Zoom Q2n for video.
DW Performance kit 8,10,12,14,22 Collectors 5x14 snare. Zildjian Cymbals and DW heads. Mics Audix DP7 mic kit with an added D2 for the 8" tom.

Merry Christmas

https://youtu.be/7Rh1REIHWkc

https://youtu.be/KAtJN2_XmWk

BTW is it possible to embed the video so you don't have to hyperlink to it? Tried copying and pasting the embed link from youtube but it didn't work.
 

Andy

Administrator
Staff member
Kit sounded pretty good. Perhaps a bit more presence to the bass drum would help, & certainly a bit more life in the snare.

loved those triplet fills in the 33 miles song, but your playing in the other song was much more settled. You certainly seemed to be enjoying yourself, & that really came across in your playing on the 2nd song.

A merry Christmas to you too :)
 

konaboy

Pioneer Member
Kit sounded pretty good. Perhaps a bit more presence to the bass drum would help, & certainly a bit more life in the snare.

loved those triplet fills in the 33 miles song, but your playing in the other song was much more settled. You certainly seemed to be enjoying yourself, & that really came across in your playing on the 2nd song.

A merry Christmas to you too :)
Thanks Andy!

Any tips on how to get a bit more presence in the kick and life in the snare? I know a lot has to do with mic placement. BD mic is in the middle of the kick pointed at the beater, Snare is just above the rim pointed towards the middle of the batter head.
 

lefty2

Platinum Member
Sounded good nice playing too. I agree with Andy on the snare and kick but have no idea how to achieve that. They don't sound bad though.
 

BerlinStold

Junior Member
Thanks Andy!

Any tips on how to get a bit more presence in the kick and life in the snare? I know a lot has to do with mic placement. BD mic is in the middle of the kick pointed at the beater, Snare is just above the rim pointed towards the middle of the batter head.
What snare mic do you use? I came to the conclusion that it's one of the vital factors for snare drum sound. For me, an SM57 positioned at the rim at a very flat angle pointed towards the center of the snare drum works just fine. Also I always use a REMO Ambassador and let the snare wide open (works because of die cast hoops because they control overtones and ringing, you might want to change that on flanged hoops).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14SYgHjEap7rF_AnfzDM1VgqQa7c8KXKR/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jFz37G5s5Cgd5ue9EofuZ2P71RUQkxL2

For the bass drum you might want to try tuning the head a little tighter and letting the mic point at a point between the beater an the far end of the head. It may bring back some resonance and a more complex tone as a result which can help achieve presence.
 

konaboy

Pioneer Member
What snare mic do you use? I came to the conclusion that it's one of the vital factors for snare drum sound. For me, an SM57 positioned at the rim at a very flat angle pointed towards the center of the snare drum works just fine. Also I always use a REMO Ambassador and let the snare wide open (works because of die cast hoops because they control overtones and ringing, you might want to change that on flanged hoops).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14SYgHjEap7rF_AnfzDM1VgqQa7c8KXKR/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jFz37G5s5Cgd5ue9EofuZ2P71RUQkxL2

For the bass drum you might want to try tuning the head a little tighter and letting the mic point at a point between the beater an the far end of the head. It may bring back some resonance and a more complex tone as a result which can help achieve presence.
Thanks for the reply and help. Using an Audix I5 on the snare and a D6 in the bass. The snare is a DW collectors maple, have a remo coated PS3 on it. The mic is placed pointing at the center of the drum (roughly a 45 degree angle) and the diapragm is pretty much over the marked tone ring of the head. So from what you are saying sounds like I need to pull the mic back a little so the diaphagm is basically at the rim and flatten the angle a little more.

I'll also try your suggestion for the bass drum

Appreciate the feedback and help. Will post up some results this weekend.

Brian
 

trickg

Silver Member
I liked it. The snare is a little dry - maybe mix in a bit of reverb, or compress it a bit. There are some articles online that talk about specific settings you can use.

Here's a thing I did as sort of proof-of-concept for the singer of this little band I was a part of for a short time to prove we could do demo work on our own and not have to pay someone in a studio. Me and the guitar player did this one night. ALL of the settings I used for everything I got from an article, and I duplicated those settings as much as I could with what I was working with at the time - Garage Band on an iMac. Gain level, compression, reverb, EQ - everything the article said, I did as best as I could.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REDL2khNsJo

In any case, it ended up being moot because the singer got a case of leadsingeritis and dissolved the whole thing a few weeks later, but I thought we did a decent job proving that we could do a DIY demo that sounded halfway decent.

Mics I used on this project:

Snare - Shure SM57
Toms - el cheapo tom mics from the CAD Pro 7-piece mic set
Overheads - Audix F15 Fusion configured in Recorderman setup (Google this)
Kick - Shure SM7B
Room - MXL V67G placed about 8 feet in front of the kit

The kit:
Pearl maple SMX Session,
Snare: DIY 6x14 Keller maple snare
Ride: Sabian AA Rock Ride
Hats: Sabian AAX Stage
Crashes: 17" Dream Bliss/18" Sabian HHX Studio
 
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