Evans v Remo - settle an arguement

Florian

Gold Member
this discussion is going on in another forum:

<<Its worth noting that the Evans product is fundamentally a cheaper SKC plastic(30%?), and has nowhere near the musical range of the Remo mylar product. I can't understand why anybody would put a cheap plastic used in mobile phones and fridges on their top line German drums unless they're simply purchasing to a budget!?>>

Can anyone confirm that Evans uses a cheaper plastic.

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Doug Masters

Silver Member
Both use Dupont mylar which leads me to believe each company's clear heads are virtually the same with minor differences in the collar and hoop. The coating however is definitely different although both companies spray the coating on (yes I've personally seen Remo spray it). Ultimately, it doesn't matter as long as you like the sound.
 

Stroman

Platinum Member
I can't confirm what you heard, but they are undoubtedly different films, based on feel, sound, etc.
 

Stroman

Platinum Member
Both use Dupont mylar which leads me to believe each company's clear heads are virtually the same with minor differences in the collar and hoop.
I don't think we can assume this. Roy Burns (Aquarian) has mentioned that it can be very hard to get consistent, high quality film.
 

Dr_Watso

Platinum Member
"Nowhere near the musical range of remo"? That's got to be one of the biggest piles of nonsense I've read around here.
 

Dr_Watso

Platinum Member
I concur Dr., again, need to hear something from the horses mouth. I love my Evans heads.

F
I wouldn't worry about it. Of course both brands have different processes and sound different, but that original statement is just plain dumb. It's like a mentally disabled kid is trying to justify why he thinks remo is "better", with some kind of nonsense when really it has a lot more to do with one of his drum heroes endorsing or using remo.

Hell, I even have a snare that right now has evans on top and remo on bottom! Oh, the humanity!
 

v.zarate

Gold Member
idk about the arguement the OP posted but i have used both in the past and probably keep using both company heads.

there are differences in the both of them. the feel of them is one and the sound is the other. from my experience...

the clear G1s feel papery as where the clear ambassadors dont feel papery. the sound of both i have to say are different too.
the coated G1 feel good and sound good but the ambassadors sound a bit warmer.

the clear G2/EC2s feel great and sound great. the emperors also feel and sound great.

the coated G2's feel like they have a thick-ass coating on them making them a bit too warmer for my taste. never really tried the coated emperors but thats my next adventure!
 
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Stroman

Platinum Member
I concur Dr., again, need to hear something from the horses mouth. I love my Evans heads.

F
I can't imagine Evans or any other company coming out and saying "It's true, we use an inferior film" no matter what.

On the other hand, if you love your Evans heads, why does it matter?
 

Pocket-full-of-gold

Platinum Member
Are they talking about Evans G1, G2 etc.......or the Evans equivalent of something like a Remo UT that are often found on many intermediate or lower end kits?

It's not uncommon for cheaper heads to be used on kits. Hence why so many swap them out immediately. Can you clarify exactly what Evans heads they're talking about?
 

Stroman

Platinum Member
To alleviate a point of inferior film.

F
I didn't really mean to be facetious, but I sincerely doubt the people at Evans even know exactly what the specs are for Remo film, whether it costs differently, etc. I would expect that information to be kept confidential between purchaser and supplier.

I also expect that Evans (and Remo, for that matter) specify certain films for certain applications, and that spec probably has little to do with what the other guy is doing...

Just my thoughts.
 

Terrence R

Silver Member
I don't care at all what either of them are made of. It's the sound and feel that really counts.

I do find pros and cons between the 2. I find that coated remos don't stay in tune as long. Also, remos coating ALWAYS marks up my other heads. The coating is notorious for making a mess going from a coated Remo snare head to clear Tom heads, a terrible mess of marks.

But on the other end, I find I'm liking a lot of remos heads as far as sound goes. For example: a Remo CS coated Black dot snare head sounds much better than a coated Evans power dot snare head IMO.
 

porter

Platinum Member
I don't care at all what either of them are made of. It's the sound and feel that really counts.

I do find pros and cons between the 2. I find that coated remos don't stay in tune as long. Also, remos coating ALWAYS marks up my other heads. The coating is notorious for making a mess going from a coated Remo snare head to clear Tom heads, a terrible mess of marks.

But on the other end, I find I'm liking a lot of remos heads as far as sound goes. For example: a Remo CS coated Black dot snare head sounds much better than a coated Evans power dot snare head IMO.
I've never had such an experience as you describe with a Remo snare batter.

So what if the film is cheaper? They still sound like heads.
 

Florian

Gold Member
I can honestly say in my nearly 40 years of drumming, Ive never played Aquarian. Started with Remo, moved to Evans probably 20 years ago.

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Les Ismore

Platinum Member
I recently got a load of EVANS EC2 SST tom heads, being LEVEL 360 I really don't notice that they tune up a whole lot easier, especially on my 5 lug GRETSCH toms, but I can tell you w/o a doubt they're 'best sounding' heads I've played to date.


Guaranteed both companies use a different grade of MYLAR, Im sure there'd be patent issues if they used the exact same film.

DUPONT has like a quadzillion different grades. You could start your own drumhead co and not worry about the same sound, if you even had an idea of what type of MYLAR would sound best.

PREMIER hit it on on the head with their old signature heads being a european variant MELINEX, they sounded and felt great compared too.

EC is actually a lable used for a grade/type of DUPONT MYLAR, tho maybe used coincidentally as such in the call out by EVANS.
 
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