Bonus points for anybody who spots the logical fallacy in my posts above.
I get discounts based on volume (repeat business.) I don't expect a store to do anything because I'm a drummer or chose the arts as a career. It's not their responsibility to support the arts or artists.
Well not 'everybody' can do it. But actually opportunity in music and arts in general is greater than ever given internet exposure. You don;t need big bucks to go in a studio anymore, hell you don;t even need a studio to get notice. The thing is more folks are out there doing it.Ah yes, the American Dream. How’s that working out for everybody these days?
There's a certain amount of support from retailers, but the foundation lies in gaining more business, not because they have kind hearts.Not their responsibility, it’s true, but it’s absolutely in the interests of retail music shops to support both arts and artists. (If the art fades, so does their business.)
Wrong. My career path would be exactly the same without any of my endorsements, and I believe I'd be using most or all of the same brands I do now.Same goes for the manufacturers. I mean, that’s why endorsement deals exist, right?
Well, that would have to happen first. The clerk would have to be a major Al fan to know me on sight, I'm just not that recognizable. It's not unusual to be asked 1) are you a drummer? or 2) are you looking for something for your child?But by the same token if you go into a shop you've never been in and the sales person says "Cool! You play w/Weird Al." ...
Please tell me you have answered no twice when both questions were asked:It's not unusual to be asked 1) are you a drummer? or 2) are you looking for something for your child?
The comparison here doesn't weigh up at all. Walk in there and buy a couple of hundred, or even a couple of thousand.......with an ongoing service and maintenance relationship thrown in as well.....and I reckon you would.Do you think a big company buying new personal computers pays what you or I would if we walked into a retail shop? No way!
I buy a LOT of stuff at retail, including things that I need onstage. Sometimes it's for a bandmate (maracas, tambourines, an amp riser...) And I buy stuff that ends up getting used once or twice, or sometimes goes straight into storage. In the past 5 years alone I spent well over $50k on equipment, and that's separate from endorsements. Yes, the music stores like me.Side note: Do you even purchase things you gig with at music stores, or just stuff to build up your that you use?
Interesting. In my day job life I'm usually astounded at what the company pays for business travel. Some of this is for the ability to make last minute changes, so they pay premium. But it's really easy to beat the pants off of corporate rates with Expedia or Priceline for my own travel. A couple of companies I've been at have even jettisoned their corporate travel agents and put the onus on the employees to find more economical arrangements. And if some manager in the approval chain thinks the cost could be bettered, they kick it back down to the employee to come up with something cheaper.Hmmm. Extensive experience, personal and otherwise, seems to indicate the exact opposite.
There was certainly a time when a lot of product - not all of it however - was comped to artists with a desirable level of exposure. The industry in general and the economy in particular have forced manufacturers to tighten their marketing and artist budgets, and there's not a lot of free product going out these days. Well, not nearly as much as in the past. Getting gratis gear is no longer the simple trick it once might have seemed.Artists are a manufacturer's shop window and anyone with a high profile who isn't getting their gear supplied gratis in recognition of the exposure they provide is missing a simple trick
How about "I loved you in Princess Bride!"Well, that would have to happen first. The clerk would have to be a major Al fan to know me on sight, I'm just not that recognizable. It's not unusual to be asked 1) are you a drummer? or 2) are you looking for something for your child?
Just bumping this very interesting article. I m happy we have such an articulate star drummer as you who takes time to share your experience with us. Truly valuable.
Yeah: presumably it all hangs on a range of factors (although I'm guessing the clues as to who's getting a higher level of support are there in company literature, recording credits, etc.) - and you're quite right: any arrangement like this is between the artist and the supplier and ought to remain that way.... Drummers you'd swear were getting comped have to pay, and others you'd think aren't big enough are getting a free ride. That's why I never discuss the terms of my agreements. The responses I'd get are "What?! You're getting free gear?!" or "What?! You're not getting free gear?!" I'm not really interested in having to justify either scenario.