Ending cover songs that fade out

This is why I don't play in "cover bands". No room for creativity if band is thinking about how to play a song exactly as recorded. Led Zeppelin never played a song the same way twice live on tour. Neither did The Who. Really no band did or does. Live is live. Play the song - the audience don't care.
 
This is why I don't play in "cover bands". No room for creativity if band is thinking about how to play a song exactly as recorded. Led Zeppelin never played a song the same way twice live on tour. Neither did The Who. Really no band did or does. Live is live. Play the song - the audience don't care.
Just the opposite. The fact that songs fade out opens up the world of possibilities to be creative.
 
Just the opposite. The fact that songs fade out opens up the world of possibilities to be creative.
They only faded out in one instance - on the record. Point being the same bands playing live on Soul Train or American Bandstand or Midnight Special or any concerts didn't fade them out. Why the obsession? I just don't get it.

And fade out or not fade out on a record - how does that open up more possibilities than a recording that has a finite end? Playing live you can end any song any way you want no matter how recorded. Again - 5 pages of angst over how to end a cover song means I'll never play with any band billing itself as a cover band.

This whole thing about covering close to the original just makes me laugh.
 
Just once I really want to do a show with a fade out tune, where we actually do just that and diminuendo for 30 seconds to nothing, and then see how long it takes before the audience figures out to start clapping.
 
This is why I don't play in "cover bands". No room for creativity if band is thinking about how to play a song exactly as recorded. Led Zeppelin never played a song the same way twice live on tour. Neither did The Who. Really no band did or does. Live is live. Play the song - the audience don't care.
I ( guitar player) have never thought of myself as playing in a 'cover band',
but with very little exception, 50 years of playing only covers- all kinds of music.
There was just so many kinds of music I loved, and I wanted to play ( try...) guitar on; and later, sing...

Today, playing in a 'cover' or 'tribute' band, to me, seems to indicate something that is rote/almost like everyone sticking to a script; every part, every note worked out.

I was gonna say "that's not making music...", but that's not right- as we have exactly that with Classical/Symphonic Music, opera, etc.,

So, I'll just say it's not for me, I like to jam with our bands, make the cover songs, ours, maybe
 
I ( guitar player) have never thought of myself as playing in a 'cover band',
but with very little exception, 50 years of playing only covers- all kinds of music.
There was just so many kinds of music I loved, and I wanted to play ( try...) guitar on; and later, sing...

Today, playing in a 'cover' or 'tribute' band, to me, seems to indicate something that is rote/almost like everyone sticking to a script; every part, every note worked out.

I was gonna say "that's not making music...", but that's not right- as we have exactly that with Classical/Symphonic Music, opera, etc.,

So, I'll just say it's not for me, I like to jam with our bands, make the cover songs, ours, maybe

I've never played with an originals band, so I guess everything I play we're covering some tune that was recorded. But with jazz most of the tunes have been played and recorded by multiple artists and interpreted in many ways done and redone and reinvented, especially Great American Songbook tunes. Nobody in that genre is thinking gee how can we play this exactly like x, even down to how x ended the song on the recording. More sophisticated audience and musicians maybe in jazz, who want to be creative and interpret, and not execute a staged pre-determined rendition. God shoot me please. And even with our blues band we would listen to some bands interpretation, listen to original, and then invent our own take on it. Covering a 3.25 minute Top 40 pop tune from 1981 please just shoot me now. Ending a song the same way as it fades out on the recording? Not my cuppa. Heck as an audience member that would bore me - in audience I wanna hear spontaneity and hear creativity on stage. Fades are a studio thing they're not for live performances.

I'm ranting. Ok yeah.
 
This is why I don't play in "cover bands". No room for creativity if band is thinking about how to play a song exactly as recorded. Led Zeppelin never played a song the same way twice live on tour. Neither did The Who. Really no band did or does. Live is live. Play the song - the audience don't care.
Just the opposite. The fact that songs fade out opens up the world of possibilities to be creative.
I find way more than that to be creative in cover bands. Just the idea that you may not have the exact instrumentation of the original means you’re going to be creative if you plan to pull off a good sounding cover. No, it’s not like writing your own songs, but I still find that aspect satisfying.

And while I agree that you don’t have to do a mirror image of the original version of a song to get over, it’s not an easy thing to pull off and do it well, and I respect those who can do it well.
 
Just once I really want to do a show with a fade out tune, where we actually do just that and diminuendo for 30 seconds to nothing, and then see how long it takes before the audience figures out to start clapping.
And that’s why fade-outs live suck. Most of the time they don’t clap at all.
 
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This is why I don't play in "cover bands". No room for creativity if band is thinking about how to play a song exactly as recorded. Led Zeppelin never played a song the same way twice live on tour. Neither did The Who. Really no band did or does. Live is live. Play the song - the audience don't care.
Actually there are tens of live recordings of Led Zep performances where they do play a song pretty much the same….usually for an entire tour. Yes maybe Jimmy misses a few notes in a solo but song structure, start and ending identical.Many of these, from 72, 73, 75 and 77 tours are all bootlegs on YouTube To compare.
I think the Grateful Dead is more akin to what you are saying.
I do agree with you though that an audience doesn’t care.

Regarding fade outs doesn’t a few flam+bass drum doubles end any and everything , lol
 
Yeah, but the ones who get it are all cracking up inside!

But seriously, is this actually a thing or something? I've never even heard of anyone doing a live fade out. Everyone here makes it sound like it actually happens a lot.
I played in a couple bands who wanted to do it and we stopped immediately after the first time. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers did it for Breakdown, and even they didn’t get much of a reaction, even in their heyday.
 
Doesn't Freebird originally fade out? You know they do the epic punches with a quadruple bass tom flam for the last note live.
Yes it does. And live they do three epic punches followed by 6 bars of bolero, then the massive epic Hollywood ending.
 
I played in a couple bands who wanted to do it and we stopped immediately after the first time. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers did it for Breakdown, and even they didn’t get much of a reaction, even in their heyday.
Wow, I had no idea Petty actually tried that in concert. That's wild, I've got look up some live videos of Breakdown. It's just such an obviously "records only" technique I've personally never heard anyone ever seriously suggest it, let alone try it.
 
I don't think i have ever experienced a fade out live....that would be very weird....
 
Sorry, say that again?
You faded out at the end there.
(Just got back from the pub, sorry 🙄)

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I am interested did anyone here try to play around with song covers using AI? I know that a lot of people think that music AI tools are bad and harmful, but for me music AI is really interesting. You can mess around with voices and sounds, not bad at all for creative exploring. I was just wondering did any musicians try it out? So far I found best performances in AudioModify, the cool thing is that you own what you create with it, so you can publish your creation easily, and who knows even make some money along the way.
 
I suggest playing a quick shave and a hair cut to end the song regardless of the style of music.
I love it. I once had a short lived classic video game music project where we did something like that. Since pretty much all old video game tunes have no ending, we'd close every arrangement with the ending hits from Super Mario Bros or Legend of Zelda. The more forced it sounded, the better.
 
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