DW Ultralight cymbal stand weight capabilities

roncadillac

roncadillac

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I recently picked up a set of DW 6000 ultralight flat based hardware, I've used flat based stands from another company and in general I've used some type of lightweight single braced hardware my whole life. I am thinking about picking up a heavy 20" ride (about 2,500g/5.6#) and was curious what the opinions are on using a heavy cymbal on a light stand? I don't hit really hard and it would be sitting pretty low and flat but the cymbal is well over double the weight of the stand so that is of obvious concern. I'm currently using an 18" crash ride but the music I'm playing now calls for a pronounced ping with little to no wash so I'm finding myself overplaying the little crash ride to coax volume from the almost non-existent ping. I figure a heavier cymbal will be much brighter and will require much less force to achieve sound so (in theory) the stand would be taking less from each hit.

To be fair I did gig a Zildjian 22" earth ride on a DIY lightweight cymbal stand made from a straight stand upper tube with tilter and snare stand tripod base without issue.
 
No problem at all, cept wind. I fixed that by having some hook-and-loop cable ties wrapped on the legs when the need arises. They stay on the legs at all times and I just unwrap a little on particularly gusty days. I have had a first gen K Custom and Custom Dry on them with no problems. Both are near the 3000g mark.
 
ineedaclutch said:
No problem at all, cept wind. I fixed that by having some hook-and-loop cable ties wrapped on the legs when the need arises. They stay on the legs at all times and I just unwrap a little on particularly gusty days. I have had a first gen K Custom and Custom Dry on them with no problems. Both are near the 3000g mark.
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Awesome, thank you!
 
In my experience….. and I used varied cymbals so I had to adjust often ….. The tilter design on the ultralight is awful. DW replaced mine after about 3 months and I immediately sold the stands advertising them like new.

I’m using the Yamahas and I miss the flat base but can’t really complain. I might do the Tamas if I could do it over.

Good luck, the weight of the cymbal will be fine :)
 
I couldn’t find a better pic, but the cable tie is circled. I have only had to use them a couple of times, but it’s worth having them anyway. They always come in handy. D2342CD5-F34B-477F-B26C-17984BC6030D.jpeg
 
jaymandude said:
In my experience….. and I used varied cymbals so I had to adjust often ….. The tilter design on the ultralight is awful. DW replaced mine after about 3 months and I immediately sold the stands advertising them like new.

I’m using the Yamahas and I miss the flat base but can’t really complain. I might do the Tamas if I could do it over.

Good luck, the weight of the cymbal will be fine :)
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Thank you!!!

I will agree that I'm not a huge fan of the gearless tilter on the dw's but everything else is cool. I have less then ten hours of play on this hardware and the snare tilter is already loose lol. I can say from personal experience that the Tama stuff is great and if you like this type of lightweight vintage inspired hardware then you will not be disappointed.
 
**** 2877g of old K 22 **** 2520g of Hammer Bos ***** 2580g of old A 22
hasn't yet bothered (not all at once ; )
Gibraltar flat base
10 years on they're like new)
needing a drum key to set up is odd but.

forgot **** 3013g 22" Dark Medium K
presses the Gibraltar's flat luck if I used that cymbal regularly I might (and do) take an old late 70s Ludwig Atlas
 
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Awesome, several cymbals much heavier then the one I am considering work fine on the DW 6000 flat base so I think I should be good to go
 
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Mine is a 20" Meinl Raker heavy ride, think Paiste Rude weight and you're in the ballpark.
I've had no problems with the gearless tilter but I never liked the snare stand, indeed that and the hi hat went the journey leaving me with 4 cymbal stands.
 
I have the ultra light stands that I use when I play inside. I have had 22" ride cymbals on them before with no troubles. As long as its a straight stand it should hold about anything. I hit fairly hard and my 22" Omni gets crashed also so those stands can take quite a bit.
 
I am trying to decide between the DW 6000 series flat-base straight cymbal stands (DWCP6710), which have a somewhat wider base and memory locks, and the ultralight version (DWCP6710UL) with no memory locks. Anyone know if there is much of a weight difference between them or other pros/cons?
 
roncadillac said:
I recently picked up a set of DW 6000 ultralight flat based hardware, I've used flat based stands from another company and in general I've used some type of lightweight single braced hardware my whole life. I am thinking about picking up a heavy 20" ride (about 2,500g/5.6#) and was curious what the opinions are on using a heavy cymbal on a light stand? I don't hit really hard and it would be sitting pretty low and flat but the cymbal is well over double the weight of the stand so that is of obvious concern. I'm currently using an 18" crash ride but the music I'm playing now calls for a pronounced ping with little to no wash so I'm finding myself overplaying the little crash ride to coax volume from the almost non-existent ping. I figure a heavier cymbal will be much brighter and will require much less force to achieve sound so (in theory) the stand would be taking less from each hit.

To be fair I did gig a Zildjian 22" earth ride on a DIY lightweight cymbal stand made from a straight stand upper tube with tilter and snare stand tripod base without issue.
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I've had my 21" and 23" Bosphorus rides on the Gibraltar flat based stands with ZERO problems. Sometimes in crappy windy conditions ....as long as I wasn't like fully extended on a boom that was flat against the wind Ndugu style - the wind wasn't even much of a problem really.

Same for the Yamaha ultra light cross town stands.
 
rwp42 said:
I am trying to decide between the DW 6000 series flat-base straight cymbal stands (DWCP6710), which have a somewhat wider base and memory locks, and the ultralight version (DWCP6710UL) with no memory locks. Anyone know if there is much of a weight difference between them or other pros/cons?
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I don't have personal experience with the 'regular' DW flat based stands but I can comfortably say the ultralight version that I have are all absurdly light weight. I'll be honest in saying they feel a bit cheap and the gearless tilters are kinda crap but as a whole I don't hate them. I vastly preferred my old Tama classic series flat based set to the DW Ultralight.
 
rwp42 said:
I am trying to decide between the DW 6000 series flat-base straight cymbal stands (DWCP6710), which have a somewhat wider base and memory locks, and the ultralight version (DWCP6710UL) with no memory locks. Anyone know if there is much of a weight difference between them or other pros/cons?
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I regularly use the 6710UL and had a 6710 for some time. I lost my 6710 some cannot weigh. Was heavier but not much ( maybe an extra 33%)

6710UL:
+ Insanely light
+ Great for fitting round other stands/cables due to tripod option
+ small footprint makes positioning easy
+ Sleak looking

6710:
+ Light
+ Reassuringly stable
+ Great tilter
+ decent capacity for cymbal angle and height

I recently bought a tama classic to replace the lost 6710. Its my favourite of the 3 as it packs up tight and looks good
 
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