I think that's the most important info in your post. You don't have much experience then, so I'd rather go for the conventional ideas, because they obviously seem to make sense. Some years later you'll have the musical and conceptual knowledge to decide what you wanna do. Until then, I'd learn the basics, which very much includes hihat work both with hands and foot.I'm still new to drums but personally i think so long as i have a ride and a china there isn't much need but i want ur opinions.
DMC, while I agree with you just wanted to point out that some guitar players do this. Kieth Richards famously plays a 5 string guitar and 4 string tenor guitars were very popular in the 30's. Now I suppose it helps your case that these are really more for rhythm playing. While Kieth (Richards not Moonie) is a rhythm player that's not to say he's a talentless noisy hack like the other Kieth (Moonie not Richards.)
Calm down you old-timers, I'm kidding.
Yes, if you're in the position to be an artist who can choose whatever he likes to do.Music is an art form - and its up to the artist to take the music in any direction they so choose
But they DID use hi-hats...
I don't see it as talking down, i was looking for answers from more experienced players anyway so it would be hard not to kinda feel like that was going on. As for the "more important" part thats not what i was meaning, not really anyway. I was just saying those are what i prefer. I was basing on want, not importance... which makes the logic sound much worse than it actually is lol After seeing these posts remote hi-hats are a definate possibility. As for now i have hi hats that i use(13 zbt's :/ but i only have one pro cymbal now anyway, price was also a big reason i was asking about it seeing as how short of a big hammerax they'd be the most expensive cymbals), and i'm still learning to use them. And between the hihat and the slave on my dbl bass pedal my left foot stays plenty active. And yeah i def know what u mean about changing, i just downsized the tom sizes like a week ago, it was 8/10/14/16/18/ with 24 bass. Saves like 2k, plus after paying more attention to my current 16ft i figured 18 may well be too big for my style anyway. But it'll still be a long while before i can get that kit, i was just asking while this was on my mind.Personally, I'd strongly recommended you keep the hihats
Secondly: you say you're "still new to drums." I don't want to speak down to you, but I think it's highly likely that, a few years down the track, when you have some more experience, you'll really regret not having a hi-hat (and it's more than that, if you only just started playing. A few years down the track you won't even know how to play a hihat.). My 'ideal kit setup' has changed so many times that I can't even keep count, and some of them have just been ridiculous. Guess what? Now my ideal kit is a four piece with hats, crash and a ride. Hah, funny how that happens. Don't expect to still idealise your 10/14/15/16/24 setup in another two years, or even another two months.
Finally, and I haven't read the thread too carefully, but I don't think it's been mentioned yet: According to your original post, your argument is this: "I don't want to use a hi-hat because my four toms and two snare drums are more important, and I can't fit it all on the kit." Ask any drummer on this board and I can all but promise they will tell you otherwise. The hihat is arguably the most expressive and versatile part of the kit, whereas having a fourth tom adds very little to your voice.
Alright so i personally don't much care for them in the first place but i don't think i've ever heard a drum track that doesn't use them at some point. I currently do have a set, but i generally only use them in cover attempts. When i upgrade drum sets i plan to go to a 1(10) up 3(14, 15, 16) down with two snares(14, 13 piccolo), 24 bass drum and based on the DW kitbuilder there just isn't room for all of them, so i'm asking accomplished drummers this: Would i be crazy to have a drum set without hats? I'm still new to drums but personally i think so long as i have a ride and a china there isn't much need but i want ur opinions.
To me, going without hats would be like a guitarist playing without a string or two. I think the hats are the most expressive part of the set, capable of barks, sssips, sloshes, ticks and more. I would rather play without a snare than without hihats.
Many drummers ignore their left foot almost entirely, unless they are playing double bass, and then the left foot is suddenly very important. It is just my opinion, but I think drummers who ignore their left foot are lazy.
I don't see any reason that you couldn't fit hi hats in that setup.
Yep...if I were forced to choose, I'd give up the ride before the hats. They have way more dynamic and sonic possibilities (endless, really.)
I could live on snare, kick and hats, alone...if the world ever became such a cruel and unusual place.