Drum sound ------------ ARE THERE ANY DRUMMERS HELP WITH THIS BEAT PLS ???

bellows

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I am not a drummer sadly, but I want to recreate this drum pattern
All things to all men
Its the high end; snare and ride? HH? sounds that I am most interested in.

Can anyone help me understand the kick, snare and cymbal timings please????
or even create a quick midi file

73 people read this and not a single word! seriously?
 
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BGDurham

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Midi knowledge is not required to be an actual drummer. I don't even know what midi is.
 

bellows

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Oooooooooooooook how about a description of what the snare and symbal hits are ??
sounds like a slight snare hit before the main crack?
 

River19

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Listening to a minute of that when the drums kick in.....to me sounds like a highly processed ride cymbal and a shallow snare like a piccolo snare with grace notes ahead of the back beat......the kick drum is more implied than actually featured in the mix.

If I were to try and recreate that with acoustic drums that is the approach I would take. The playing of that initial part is easy, the real work is at the mixing board to get that heavy processed sound.

Just my quick $0.02
 

bellows

New Member
Listening to a minute of that when the drums kick in.....to me sounds like a highly processed ride cymbal and a shallow snare like a piccolo snare with grace notes ahead of the back beat......the kick drum is more implied than actually featured in the mix.

If I were to try and recreate that with acoustic drums that is the approach I would take. The playing of that initial part is easy, the real work is at the mixing board to get that heavy processed sound.

Just my quick $0.02
Thank you!!!
Highly processed I think means compressed? ie the vol level remains mostly constant. from the hit thru the decay
please explain "grace notes ahead of the back beat" pretend I know nothing about drumming (i dont)
The effects and sound processing I can handle )
 

Supergrobi

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Supergrobi

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You didn't click on the link and hit play, did you?
 

bellows

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You didn't click on the link and hit play, did you?
Oh. Excuse me. I missed that implication.... let me do that.
Hmmm.. it says loading project, but there are no midi notes in there. When I hit play, it plays nothing for a bar or so and then stops.
I assume this is not what I was supposed to discover ))

EDIT
just tried a different browser. Works. I guess that site doesnt like Opera :/
Are there toms in that drum track or are they a sub for something else?
No High Hat?

where are the grace notes and backbeat stuff ? (yes i really am that ignorant)
and fyi, its actually 75.5bpm.... who records at track at a fraction like that ....
 
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River19

Senior Member
Thank you!!!
Highly processed I think means compressed? ie the vol level remains mostly constant. from the hit thru the decay
please explain "grace notes ahead of the back beat" pretend I know nothing about drumming (i dont)
The effects and sound processing I can handle )

Grace notes......let's say you are playing a 2&4 backbeat with a full 12" stroke (lifting your arm/wrist/stick 12" for the snare hit) with an intensity of 7 out of 10 on a physical effort scale, a grace note in that example would be played from maybe 1-2"s above the drum as a lighter tap of say 2-3 out of 10 on the effort scale.....so basically a "softer" snare hit that adds motion and a syncopated funkiness in between a standard 2&4 back beat.

The processing certainly would leverage compression along with I think a generous amount of EQ where they may have really shaped the sound.

Again just my $0.02
 

bellows

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Grace notes......let's say you are playing a 2&4 backbeat with a full 12" stroke (lifting your arm/wrist/stick 12" for the snare hit) with an intensity of 7 out of 10 on a physical effort scale, a grace note in that example would be played from maybe 1-2"s above the drum as a lighter tap of say 2-3 out of 10 on the effort scale.....so basically a "softer" snare hit that adds motion and a syncopated funkiness in between a standard 2&4 back beat.

The processing certainly would leverage compression along with I think a generous amount of EQ where they may have really shaped the sound.

Again just my $0.02

now add in that goodness.. magic sustinance, you now what i mean... just do it!
(drummer talk I guess)

When do the softer grace notes hit? 1/16 before the main snare hit? or on the "a"

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