Going on a trip to New York and San Francisco in a couple of days. Just wondering if there are any great drum shops in these cities that you guys would personally recommend to check out? Wouldn't mind taking home a souvenir!
Thanks for the tips guys.There are no drum shops in San Francisco anymore - if you go across the bay to Marin County you'll find A Drummer's Tradition which is worth a visit, lots of vintage stuff. And over in the East Bay, Berkeley to be exact, there is Starving Musician, which has a decent selection of used drum kits and new and used cymbals.
It's more to do with the fact that SF is being re-populated with young tech millionaires so evictions and ridiculous rent increases are the norm - I heard of one woman who's rent for a 2 bedroom apartment was raised from $2100 to $8900 per month! Because of this situation I do think that it's made SF a less attractive city for musicians and artists in general, so many of them are moving across the bay to Oakland, where rents were cheaper, but now due to the exodus of people crossing the bay rents there are also starting to soar too. Sam Adato's shop closed a few years ago and he relocated up to Eugene, OR and reopened up there. Of course there is a bit of a vicious circle type of thing going on here where, because there are no drum shops you buy stuff online, and because you buy stuff online there isn't demand for a drum shop. I'd love to open a drum shop, but I probably wouldn't open it here, I'd do it in Oakland because I think there'd be more demand.Thanks for the tips guys.
Interesting to hear that a city as large as San Francisco could be without a drum shop. Obviously not enough drummers living there!
I'll be your first customer.I'd love to open a drum shop, but I probably wouldn't open it here, I'd do it in Oakland because I think there'd be more demand.
True, I remember that! But he also completely rebuilt afterwards and reopened - still I'm sure he took a financial hit in it all what with loss of income and lost stock.
Ah, you're right about that. The crash happened longer ago than I remembered. Perhaps it was more of a "first straw." Judging from his words in this article, it sounds like city life (like the crash) was a factor, but economics was the main driver:True, I remember that! But he also completely rebuilt afterwards and reopened - still I'm sure he took a financial hit in it all what with loss of income and lost stock.
Speaking of closed ,California Percussion was just just down the street from Addato's and had some really nice stuff.Ah, you're right about that. The crash happened longer ago than I remembered. Perhaps it was more of a "first straw." Judging from his words in this article, it sounds like city life (like the crash) was a factor, but economics was the main driver:
Explaining why he's closing the shop, Adato said, "I've reached a crossroads in my life where I can either go straight or make a turn. I decided to make a turn, have a change of pace, get out of the city."
He said the decision was largely based on changing market conditions. "Business changes; I'm selling less drum sets," he continued. "We're almost at Christmas Eve — I've had no parents coming in to buy their kids a beginner's drum set. There's no Christmas rush. Amazon, online — everything's changing, not just in San Francisco; it's everywhere."
SM has a warehouse in South San Jose ,so asking Micah what they have down there is always a good idea.Pretty much no.
GC sucks. Starving musician doesn't have all that much, but it's where I buy stuff.
Yea, I'm going to berk. Found some good stuff there and they usually haggle a bit on the used stuff. Nobody ever mentioned the warehouse inventory. I just don't like buying stuff online and SM usually gets me the consumables I need at a decent price.SM has a warehouse in South San Jose ,so asking Micah what they have down there is always a good idea.
In terms of variety,they are way bigger than the other two stores.
Berk is a cubby hole and Santa Cruz ain't much bigger.
That's a shame that guy had such a "whatever" attitude towards helping a customer. In my experience going in there the only guy who is helpful is the one guy with drum knowledge, an older guy. All the other guys in the shop seem to be guitar players that are long on hipster attitude and short on customer service.Not impressed with Starving Musician Berkeley. I recently went in there looking for a part and won't be returning. I was simply looking for a memory lock. I even brought the piece for it to fit on so there would be no sizing issues. It was a Saturday, so there were other customers in the store, so I did not expect to be helped right away, but there were two guys working the front counter so I asked where I could find a memory lock. One guy seemed to be working on something and said he'd be with me in a minute. The other guy just sat there. So, I just stood there up front and waited, and waited. After being ignored for a while, I wandered back to where the drums were. The small drum hardware parts were behind another counter in back. There were new parts on a wall display and a couple bins filled with miscellaneous spare parts. The counter was not attended by anyone, and there was a chain blocking off the area behind it with a sign that said "do not enter / employees only" or something of that nature. I knew that if I could just dig through the bins, I could probably find what I wanted on my own, but I obeyed the sign and waited, and waited. Finally the guy comes back, pulls up one if the bins I had been looking at and digs out some locks. I see one and say, "That one looks promising." It was the right size, but it didn't have a tightening screw. So he took a screw from a different sized lock, but I could see that it was too short. I pointed this out, but the sales guy insisted that it was fine. I held them up next to each other to show that the screw won't make it through to the other end, much less tighten, and he got all annoyed and started looking for another screw. He pulled out another one that was longer, but I could tell by sight of it that it had the wrong threading. It wouldn't screw in easily, so he pulled out a wrench and started to try to force it in. I told him it was the wrong threading, and he got testy with me and insisted it was the right screw. At that point, I told him I would just take the lock without the screw. So he gave me the lock with the wrong screw still in it. I couldn't remove it by hand, even though it had only been screwed in a short way, so I asked to borrow his wrench to remove it, and he let out this exasperated sigh and chucked the wrench on the counter toward me. Fortunately, he did not screw it in too far (because I stopped him), so the lock threads were not damaged. When i got home, I put in a correctly sized screw and it went in easily, just like it's supposed to. So, I was not robbed or anything, but it's clear that one employee, at least, has a bad attitude and lacks basic mechanical skills.
Part of the reason why there are no super groups coming area any more.Interesting to hear peoples opinions. Anything in particular that makes a place like guitar centre so average? I guess based on their online presence I have assumed them to be one of the biggest music store chains in america and you would think with that comes consistency and good stock range. Maybe not so and my assumptions are flawed. Either way I wouldn't mind someone giving some insight to this.
In regards to the san fran issue, well it is just simple economics and it is a shame that such a boom can completely remove certain business/people from a city.
As a side note I love sweetwater for my audio gear buys. Drum Centre of Portsmouth also great for their range and price, always lovely to deal with. Wouldn't mind a trip there if I was a bit closer or had time for a longer trip.
Yea, I know who you're talking about and I always seek him out if I have a question or need. Glasses, kinda thin, right? He's helped me fill out my dream of having a full vintage A set without resorting to online blind cymbal buys.That's a shame that guy had such a "whatever" attitude towards helping a customer. In my experience going in there the only guy who is helpful is the one guy with drum knowledge, an older guy. All the other guys in the shop seem to be guitar players that are long on hipster attitude and short on customer service.