+1 for Vater.Looks like the Vater Pro Rock is super close. It’s .555 wide, compared to the .551 of the Pro Mark. Still 16 1/4 long and taper and tip look to be the same. It’s hickory and not OAK. Personally I see that as a good thing. I’ve never been able to play oak sticks more than 15 minutes before they break, but can play hickory sticks for months.
Long story short, I've had issues with the tips of two different sticks -- the Oak 747s and their nylon-tipped counterparts. On the wood-tips, the tips would always shear off down the middle, right in half, in the same exact spot. On the nylon ones, the tips also fall off in the same exact spot, but in a different area than the wood tips, all long before they're even close to being chewed up and unusable. If it was a few times, I'd look at myself and figure out what I'm doing wrong, but a dozen? They have shitty quality control, and I won't support them anymore. I swear that this never happened before D'Addario.What’s the issue with Promark? I’ve been using their 5A & 5B active grip models for a few years and they have felt consistent.
Zildjian sticks tho, utter garbage. They’d shatter within a few hours of playing.
I've always figured oak sticks were the more durable option, and they really are -- everywhere but the tips, evidently.Personally I see that as a good thing. I’ve never been able to play oak sticks more than 15 minutes before they break, but can play hickory sticks for months.
There’s a reason why wood hammers are hickory. They can thane the beating the best of any wood. With respects to nylon tips. Never had one break on Vaters. Can’t say the same for others.I've always figured oak sticks were the more durable option, and they really are -- everywhere but the tips, evidently.
I was using their "dipped" 5A for funk and funk-rock. I switched to them 'cuz I'd been using a 7A with grip tape, but didn't like spending $14 for a pair of sticks. The dipped sticks felt great so I bought a pair. I really liked how the coating allowed my grip to be loose (almost no hand tension) but after a year or so, and an entire brick of sticks cracking—sometimes within minutes of use, sometimes splintering halfway up the shaft—I switched to Vic Firth. They were durable in the normal sense: a pair would last a few months, with the wood tip eventually splintering first.Whoa. What do you play? I’ve got 5 years on three pairs of Zildjians and still going strong.