i see , then i have been the biggest fool here lol. But just to clarify i kinda did it overboard with the teenager thing and should have just named the one person who gives me the willies , but i have mentioned that person so it would have been a error on my part. I do tolerate pop and occasionally do listen to it, i also love jazz , opera and grunge rock. When a person makes a good pop record , they are more likely to have a larger gathering of fans as compared to a metal record of the same calibre. as for the talentless teen , here is a vid that might make you change your mind.Agreed. My point is though, that your posts are kind of an elitism in themselves. In defending metal so vehemently you are perpetuating the problem. It's like a person so keen not to discriminate a disabled person that they end up patronising them.
The problem of elitism is solved by tolerance and acceptance. That cause is not aided by beginning large debates about people hating genres. Your threads were out of context, by which I mean, nobody around here was saying "pop is amazing and metal is trash". Furthermore, earlier on in this thread you have stated that you "despise" talentless teenagers who make hip-hop records, because it doesn't take as much skill as making metal. Is that not elitism?
You go on to eschew all pop stars as talentless, saying anybody capable of producing a good pop record can become the next pop star, while metal takes countless hours of dedication.
Your posts are the most elitist here.
err with a few exceptions of course , i technically am almost 15 lol. But yea pop is aimed for the high school area of music distribution.Pop music tends to be aimed at the 15-22 year demographic, and on the average those groups from each era swallowed up pop music of the time. At the same time, all those outside of the target demographic, mostly loathed what was pop and made all the same comments we see again, and again, and again. It lacks talent, it has no musicality, the lyrics are awful, the music of my day was better.
Music moves forward constantly, people do not as "change" has become an expletive in modern society. Look had vehemently people fight progress of any kind.
well maybe an extension of this post , do you find that the modern audience just claps for anything anyway it is presented on the drum kit? for some reason i absolutely despise it when the audience goes WHOOOOHOOOOOOO and cheers for a horrible display or perfomance on the drums? Personally i jsut wish the audience could differentiate fine playing from random hits.
Such discussions often devolve into semantics so an impression of a word must give way to its common definition as supported in documentation...e.g. a dictionary...otherwise its an opinion war...exactly what this discussion seems to be about...opinions stated as facts about the subjective quality of art.
Thoughts are words are thoughts after all. : )
for example, if I say BLM do i mean Black Lives Matter or do I mean Bureau of Land Management?
Misusing meaning to match public emotive distortion removes communication and supports manipulation.
I joined this forum in its original guise back in 2004. I was maybe a year or so older than you are now.err with a few exceptions of course , i technically am almost 15 lol. But yea pop is aimed for the high school area of music distribution.
That is my favorite part where they electrocute the patty cakes lead singer. My voice is a bass, and well frankly I get enough tenors and sopranos in the pop world.I think it's classified as death metal that I despise with the low graspy vocals that ruins a perfectly good metal song to where I just end up listening to the music and drummer which are usually really good. Put a really good rock singer in it's place and the difference would be astronomical for me. However it is possible I would of liked that type of vocal as a teen but I don't think so. The music 11 year olds like today I don't really care for either, but if I were 11 today, who knows.
Agreed. My point is though, that your posts are kind of an elitism in themselves. In defending metal so vehemently you are perpetuating the problem. It's like a person so keen not to discriminate a disabled person that they end up patronising them.
The problem of elitism is solved by tolerance and acceptance.