Some kids are born Drummers some aren't, I used to beat the crap out of my Teddy Bear with 2 oversized sticks , now it's on a Trophy kit . I can play and it sounds good , where's the downside?
I think because there is so much more to a drum kit - brands, shell types, configurations, why spend big money as a beginner on something you may not even want in just a few months?Do professional violinists need 1 million dollar Strats? No. I'm sure they would do just well with a much less model. But if they can afford it and want it , why not.
THE best response yet.A good drummer will sound good on anything, a bad drummer will sound bad on anything. But if that fancy kit makes him want to play morex have at it. If not I'll gladly pick it up cheap on Craigslist when he moves out of the basement.
Same here with my Ludwig Accent CS Custom which I picked up to temporarily fill a hole in my music room. I occasionally start shopping again, then go back to playing my cheapos. Recently cut down the kick cause I prefer the look of a 22x14 and it sounds even better now. Gigged with it, recorded with it. Money is better spent on cymbals.THE best response yet.
I bought my Gretsch mahogany Catalina Club set 10 years ago with the express intention of getting a USA Custom.
I still have the Catalinas.
They just do everything I need and their durability is phenomenal. They'll be in my house for a long time to come.
I know that in my experience, I played a crappy, beat-up King cornet that was handed down from a cousin to my sister, and then to me, from 5th grade until well into my 8th grade year. I was fighting for 1st chair with another kid who had a Bach Stradivarius (professional) trumpet. My parents got my older sister a Bach Strad, and I got the silver plated Yamaha trumpet she'd been playing, which was also a pro-level trumpet.tend to disagree with the whole "better gear is encouraging/worse gear is discouraging" argument as it tends to be weighted towards pro gear around here. I see it all the time in "what cymbals should I buy for junior" threads. "You shouldn't buy Sabian B8s, your kid will lose interest cause they're junk. Get some Ks." I played B8s for years until I could afford better cymbals. Leave them some room to improve their gear as they improve the skill and interest level.
For me it's about justification. I gig and make money on both trumpet and drums, but since trumpet is my main thing, and I'm a better trumpet player than a drummer, I see it as a justified expense to have something good, and I play on a professional level trumpet because I bring home several thousand dollars a year with it.You could just as easily ask "do professional drummers need pro kits"? I'd say no. Good heads, tuning, and a competent drummer will make many cheaper drums sound great. I'm guessing if Steve Gadd wasn't getting his Recording Customs for free, he might use something cheaper if he had to spend the money. The drum companies make them and give them away to endorsers so that "regular" people with the funds will buy them.
I guess what I really meant was he'd get what he can afford and what sounds good to him - might not be what a brand markets as its top-end. A lot of drummers, when the camera isn't on them, are using old kits and gear - not necessarily the stuff they're posing with in the ads in Modern Drummer. On the other hand, many drummers do use the stuff they pose with in ads and that the manufacturers market as "pro". Are the older, cheaper drums that are still being used any less "pro" than a Recording Custom kit? If Gadd could get an old Ludwig Rocker snare drum to sound the way he likes, he'd use it - and then it would be a professional snare drum (God help us). So, if you have the money, go buy a "pro" kit. I find intermediate kits can sound amazing and manufacturers can sell them even more cheaply if people are buying up their "pro" kits which helps the rest of out a lot so I don't begrudge anyone buying the most expensive stuff - someone has to.For me it's about justification. I gig and make money on both trumpet and drums, but since trumpet is my main thing, and I'm a better trumpet player than a drummer, I see it as a justified expense to have something good, and I play on a professional level trumpet because I bring home several thousand dollars a year with it.
I'd imagine that even if Steve Gadd wasn't endorsed and getting his drums for free (do we know for a fact that Steve Gadd gets his drums for free, and not just discounted?) he'd probably still have a top-end kit due to his livlihood as a professional drummer.
..(do we know for a fact that Steve Gadd gets his drums for free, and not just discounted?)..