Danny Carey Sound Check video from 97. Lots of interesting stuff on his approach and drum choice

I was referring to all of the videos of the wanking you posted prior to me making that comment. Actually, I like "Herb". He was by far the best person in Primus (I can't stand Claypool), I have both Attention Deficit albums, Laundry, and I'm a Pucifer fan as well, not to mention "The Hollow" is one of my favorite APC songs.
So, I guess I was misleading in my comment. I should have said Greg Fox and Zach Hill are complete wankers, overplay and are anything BUT musical, and Tim Alexander and Stephen Perkins are just ok musicians, but neither are in the same league as Carey in my opinion.


BTW- that last video of Zach Hill actually had me laughing hysterically. Honestly, can that even qualify as music? Certainly not by definition.
I'm curious: can you tell me from what point of view Carey is better than Perkins and Herb?
Also, Greg Fox and Zach Hill are not wankers, you are free to not like them but those guys are real musicians too, not "only" drummers.
Don't get me wrong, i know that Danny Carey is a very good drummer, but it's definitely not in the same category of Neil Peart, Simon Phillips,
Terry Bozzio, Virgil Donati, Gavin Harrison and Gergo Borial...he's way below them.
 

J-W

Well-known member
Jesus man, this type of drumming isn't a competition. There is no "better" drummer. Just differing opinions of those who have heard them.

I'm curious: can you tell me from what point of view Carey is better than Perkins and Herb?
Mine. I've said it a thousand times already. That's what "in my opinion" means.


Don't get me wrong, i know that Danny Carey is a very good drummer, but it's definitely not in the same category of Neil Peart, Simon Phillips,
Terry Bozzio, Virgil Donati, Gavin Harrison and Gergo Borial...he's way below them.
Yes, in your point of view. (see above)

I get it, you don't care for Danny Carey. I don't care for the drummers you posted videos of. We are two different people with two different opinions.
 
Jesus man, this type of drumming isn't a competition. There is no "better" drummer. Just differing opinions of those who have heard them.


Mine. I've said it a thousand times already. That's what "in my opinion" means.



Yes, in your point of view. (see above)

I get it, you don't care for Danny Carey. I don't care for the drummers you posted videos of. We are two different people with two different opinions.
Well...its been a waste of time "talking" with you,
You are too narrow minded for a place like a forum
 

J-W

Well-known member
Well...its been a waste of time "talking" with you,
You are too narrow minded for a place like a forum
Well then stop, because apparently you need to manage your time more wisely. "Minding your own fucking business" rather than digging up 9 videos in order jump right in here with your unsolicited opinion about Danny Carey, certainly would have helped. And having your fragile ego crushed when someone has a differing opinion than yours is the very definition of narrow mindedness.
Kettle to pot: "Have a good day!" :)
 
Well then stop, because apparently you need to manage your time more wisely. "Minding your own fucking business" rather than digging up 9 videos in order jump right in here with your unsolicited opinion about Danny Carey, certainly would have helped. And having your fragile ego crushed when someone has a differing opinion than yours is the very definition of narrow mindedness.
Kettle to pot: "Have a good day!" :)
If there is somebody with a fragile ego here it's definitely not me, little kid. I tried to argue in a civilized manner as long as it was possible, but it's better to not discuss with those who behave like little infants. If my opinion about Danny Carey was unsolicited, who asked you to post yours? NOBODY. Now stop whining, ittle kid.
 

NouveauCliche

Senior Member
If there is somebody with a fragile ego here it's definitely not me, little kid. I tried to argue in a civilized manner as long as it was possible, but it's better to not discuss with those who behave like little infants. If my opinion about Danny Carey was unsolicited, who asked you to post yours? NOBODY. Now stop whining, ittle kid.
I've actually enjoyed a lot of your posts - but there's no reason for personal attacks and for attacking a player like Danny Carey with such a large following.

I've never ever liked Tool so I have a hard time appreciating the playing - but even I walked away form this thread wanting to explore more of his playing because he seems like a great guy - and maybe I'll open my mind up to Tool a bit more (though my daugther's boyfriend likes them a LOT so I'm instantly going to have get past that haha).

I don't think it's fair to rank drummers like you've done all over this post - I'll never understand that need. Do people do it with painters? Is Monet objectively better or worse than Picasso? Why do it with your fellow drum brothers and sisters and why come on here to pick a fight with people.

And I'll tell you - you are sure confident of your list of people that are better than him - which I don't agree on at all...but what you won't see me doing is posting a bunch of videos and trying to argue that your list and opinion isn't valid then attack you for sticking to your opinions.

Bad form man.
 
I don't think it's fair to rank drummers like you've done all over this post - I'll never understand that need. Do people do it with painters? Is Monet objectively better or worse than Picasso?
I didn't think it was a crime to compare drummers who belong to the same musical genre.

Why do it with your fellow drum brothers and sisters and why come on here to pick a fight with people.
I didn't came here to fight with people, but i can't be nice with those who are rude to me.

And I'll tell you - you are sure confident of your list of people that are better than him - which I don't agree on at all...but what you won't see me doing is posting a bunch of videos and trying to argue that your list and opinion isn't valid then attack you for sticking to your opinions.
Feel free to do it.
 

NouveauCliche

Senior Member
I didn't think it was a crime to compare drummers who belong to the same musical genre.



I didn't came here to fight with people, but i can't be nice with those who are rude to me.



Feel free to do it.

Compare sure - but I don't think that there's a way to quantify one of those people as better - a comparative discussion I think would be a welcome thing. Like "XY drummers handles 7 like this as opposed to AB drummer who handles it this way - and I like this better for these reasons" as opposed "this dude blows this guy away and is better prove me wrong" haha. Which I get because I'm not flower child enough to say that I don't have my strong preferences in drummers - but it's just a matter of how we treat other.

And maybe I didn't catch the parts of threads where people were rude to you as well - I just felt like you came in HOT and got HOT responses back.

That's all my guy - just trying help this place be fun and productive :)

(I can't do it because there's one drummer on your list that I never liked...and I know for a fact that I ever said who it is that I would get flamed out of here from everyone. Though maybe I should just be "That guy" and try to figure out why I don't like his playing and go down for it hahaha)
 
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