I've seen jojo mayer play with the diameter of the snare drum covered by a cut off cymbal. Just the outside layer, maybe 2 inches or so in width. Has anyone else done this? Great sound off it! Really fat, would love to try it but it looks hard to pull off! I'm guessing you'd get a normal muffling rind, draw a line along it when its on the snare, then cut. But how the hell would you cut it so cleanly? Maybe Jojo had someone at sabian do it for him..