craigslist ad- are these worth what he's asking?

a 3 piece set of green sparkle "ludwigs"

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/msg/3612578412.html

now, it the drums definitely look good, but hes asking 900 just for the shells

my problems are that, he states that the shells have been rewrapped recently, and the hardware is all new. and the kick isnt even a ludwig. he says its a keller shell with ludwig hardware; its like the only thing original is the wood making up the shell.

he doesnt state a "series" or an age of the drums.

but, regarding the facts that he states in the ad, are they even worth that much? im not seeing the value hes asking...

and, with a "fake" ludwig kick, whats to say the toms are real too? D:

im not extremely knowledgeable on ludwig, but i know theres some guys on here that are!

what are yalls opinions?
 

slowrocker

Silver Member
Re: craigslist ad- are these worth what hes asking?

I like the set. I actually saw this a few weeks ago. I would almost be skeptical. It looks very good, but I would at least call the guy and see what he can tell you.
 

caddywumpus

Platinum Member
Re: craigslist ad- are these worth what hes asking?

Worth it as a collector's piece? Nope.

Worth it as a sweet drum kit...if those are the sizes and finish you like, then YES!!!
 

Aeolian

Platinum Member
As a museum piece, it's not there. But it may well sound killer. Many instruments you see on stage are not what they say on the label. The guitar Jimmy Page tours with was not made by Gibson. His priceless original Les Paul stays at home. And the Gibson folks couldn't match it. So another specialist luthier (who shall remain nameless) made a couple for him. These are known in the inner circles as Keeblers, as in made by magic elves in a hollow tree, by people who won't speak out of school and blow the cover. There's quite a few folks touring with "vintage" Les Pauls that are actually Keeblers. I'm sure a similar thing exists in drums where it says one thing on the kit, or looks like some priceless vintage set, but was actually made by someone on the QT so the player could have something they like on the road while still pimping their endorsement or saving some collectible bits the beating.
 

Pocket-full-of-gold

Platinum Member
The guitar Jimmy Page tours with was not made by Gibson. His priceless original Les Paul stays at home.
Completely off topic, but got a source for that mate? It's just I have an article here where he replies to a question about the sunburst Les Paul:

"the guitar that Joe Walsh gave me? I still play it with reckless abandon to this day. Which is surprising really, given how much it's worth"

Sorry to nitpick.....I'm somewhat of a Page-o-phile and I'm surprised to hear that :)
 

Soupy

Silver Member
Overpriced. I've seen newish authentic Classic Maples going for that price, and a proper set of vintage 3-ply Ludwigs would be in the same ballpark. Fake bass drum, non-original hardware, meh. Of course, at the end of the day, those drums are worth what someone will pay for them. Personally, I'd pass.
 
oh i know i could make an offer on them, and they do look nice and id love to have a set like that.

but for 900 id rather have the "real" deal.

i just wanted to ask here because im not knowledgeable with ludwig, and it seemed like with its quirks, that it couldn't be THAT much.

thank you for all the replys!

and that's definitely interesting to think about aeolian. interesting indeed...
 

tamadrm

Platinum Member
Overpriced. I've seen newish authentic Classic Maples going for that price, and a proper set of vintage 3-ply Ludwigs would be in the same ballpark. Fake bass drum, non-original hardware, meh. Of course, at the end of the day, those drums are worth what someone will pay for them. Personally, I'd pass.
Original early 70's vintage 3 ply maple/poplar/maple Ludwig classics, in original green sparkle would sell for a whole lot more than 900.Green spakle was an unpopular color,and 26 " bass drums were only used by a few drummers,so very few were sold.

So an original (I hate doing this) Bonham sized kit is VERY rare,and worth thousands of dollars.

So if it's the real deal that you want,plan on spending two things......lots of time waiting for a genuine era correct,size correct and color correct kit to come along.Also plan on spending upwards of 4 K as just a starting point.A 70's Ludwig green spakle 18x 16 floor tom,went for over 2 K last year on Ebay,and It wasn't even in great shape.

If you want a player and 3 ply Ludwigs,just put together an orphan kit,and rewrap it..Or just buy some Keller or C& C(better quality) shells,and wrap then in green starkle,buy all hew Ludwig hardware,and some reproduction B/O badges,and you're golden.

You could also buy a reissue Ludwig kit.No matter how you do it,it's going to cost bucks,unless you find a yard sale and the seller dosen't know what they have.

BTW,that seller has been on CL and Ebay for quite some time now trying to unload that kit.

Steve B
 
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