Coated ambassadors are going to let the tone of the shell sing a lot more than a double ply EC2. If I were dealing with cheaper shells, I’d go with a double ply head. It will cut out a lot of the over tones and clean up the sound. I’d be willing to bet if you put one of the heads I suggested on the floor Tom, you’d noticed an incredible difference.I believe you, but why would they sound better than the coated ambassadors?
Ha! Wow, they do exist. Thanks for the link.Mapex Tornado, 16” Floor Tom Hoop, 5 Hole. In good used condition with five mounting holes. Compatible with most drum kits. Light surface rust is present.www.ebay.com
Awesome, thanks so much for the info!Coated ambassadors are going to let the tone of the shell sing a lot more than a double ply EC2. If I were dealing with cheaper shells, I’d go with a double ply head. It will cut out a lot of the over tones and clean up the sound. I’d be willing to bet if you put one of the heads I suggested on the floor Tom, you’d noticed an incredible difference.
I mean when I was younger I had a set of eclipse drums. The cheapest drums you could buy Back then, but if I slapped remo pinstripes on them, they made them sound like drums and not a toy.
id even check out remo vintage coated ambassadors. They are double ply, not single ply.
there are differing opinions. But to me, the cheaper the shell, the more likely using a thicker head will sound better.
Thanks! When I do that search, I see some results in UK, too, but not much here in the states. Shipping from UK is usually cost-prohibitive for something like this.I’ve just looked on eBay in the uk and entered 13” 5 lug drum rim and found a lot of available items. True to form there were also 6 lug rims in there but interestingly a 16” 5 lug rim too. Price wise not expensive either, £10 to £20.
My thoughts are that exploring the possibilities of straightening your hoops or buying better replacements is the starting point. Out of interest have you tried swapping the top and bottom rims of your 13” and 16” drums, just in case putting the wonky rim on the Reso side provides a more acceptable result.
I hadn't thought of that.convert to single flange hoops using claws.
I know some of you may say, "You just need to get a better set of drums." And I understand they're not a great set. But the kick, snare, and 12 really do sound good (to me, anyway), and so I'm hoping that maybe with a straight hoop, the 13 and 16 would as well.
I like the single flanged look but they've been having some problems with the hoops being just a little undersized. I bought some from dfd and ended up scrapping them. They wouldn't sit evenly on Remo, Aquarian or Evans single ply heads. I'm sure that they have it straightened out now but that cured me of those. The clips are prohibitively expensive as well.Yes, that's the impression I was getting by looking at drumfactorydirect.
Not only are they easy to tune; they hold their tuning like nobody's business.I play Gretsch Renown and the rack toms are all 5 lug drums and I have no issue tuning them.
The 5 lugs 10 and 12 Renown are indeed a breeze to tune and hold their tuning very well; but they're die-cast hoops or 2.3 for the last series, and fortunately enough, the Gretsch 16" floor is 8 lugs! Nothing comparable to the flimsy 5 hole hoop on the 16" Tornado.I play Gretsch Renown and the rack toms are all 5 lug drums and I have no issue tuning them.