Completely custom drum building experiences?

John Q. Drummer

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Looking for stories or experiences about hiring/paying someone to manufacture from the ground up, a completely custom kit. And I mean custom, wherein you pick EVERYTHING, top to bottom, soup to nuts. I’m talking shell sizes, shell thickness, shell material, lugs, hoops, mounts, spurs, bass drum claws, finishes, the number of vents on each drum, I’m talking EVERYTHING.

I also want to clarify that I’m not speaking of getting a custom kit from DW or Ludwig. (Just to pick any company or two for illustrative purposes only.) Yes, you get to pick the color and sizes and possibly the shell types/materials, but everything else will be DW or Ludwig parts. (The lugs, the mounts, etc…you get the idea.)

As to why I’ve wanted to do this, there are a couple of reasons. After having way too many drum kits over the years, I think many of us that have bought a lot of kits like certain features from certain brands, but like other features from other brands as well. One way to look at it is to consider this little venture as building a “Frankenstein” kit, using what I consider the best bits from the various brands onto ONE drum kit.

To speak further about “why not get a kit from DW or Ludwig or whomever” is that for example, Ludwig doesn’t make high end birch shelled kits. Another example, if I wanted a tom mount on the bass drum and I wanted to go with DW, I’d have to use that god awful monstrosity they offer which is, well, not good. The point being, NONE of the existing big-name companies incorporate everything I’m looking for into one drum set. They all do what they do within a certain set of parameters and that’s fine. I’m not knocking either company I mentioned above or any company for that matter.

I’ve had a fluctuating desire to do this for about 10 years, but I’ve never done it. For the record, literally do not care about resell value at all. I’m not looking for any weird sizes or weird finishes for the matter. Everything is actually pretty standard comparatively speaking. I also have no means to do any of this myself.

Anyone ever do this? Anyone else ever contemplate doing something like this? I’d love to hear about your thoughts or experiences on this matter.
 
Yup have 4 kits built that way (2 x Fibreglass, 1 x Mahogany/Poplar, 1 x Maple Cocktail set)
All with Yamaha Tom mounts
Pearl LB-40 Floor Tom Brackets/ Masters Floor Tom legs

So I have common hardware sets.

Mick
 
I’ve had a fluctuating desire to do this for about 10 years, but I’ve never done it. For the record, literally do not care about resell value at all. I’m not looking for any weird sizes or weird finishes for the matter. Everything is actually pretty standard comparatively speaking. I also have no means to do any of this myself.
Since you've been thinking about this for a decade, is this just a theoretical possibility in your mind or something you are very serious about doing? Since you haven't the means to do the job yourself, your options become restricted to what others can provide -and they all have a set of parameters within which they operate.

Have you done research regarding who can craft something according to your specifications?

https://www.sjcdrums.com/pages/custom-shop-options

Anyone ever do this? Anyone else ever contemplate doing something like this? I’d love to hear about your thoughts or experiences on this matter.
I have not done this. I have thought about it, but only from the standpoint of me doing the work on the shells myself (bearing edges, drilling, finishing etc.), but I am not set up to do this. The major limiting factor for me is financial constraints. I have been well satisfied with drum sets available from major manufacturers, having been able to find something that fits my budget. IMHO, at the end of the day, aesthetics like hardware and finish don't contribute significant impact on how a drum sounds. I'm sure some here might disagree and that's ok. Lastly, there's a reason why major drum companies are at the top of their game: tried and true recipes for success and knowing what sells.
 
Since you've been thinking about this for a decade, is this just a theoretical possibility in your mind or something you are very serious about doing? Since you haven't the means to do the job yourself, your options become restricted to what others can provide -and they all have a set of parameters within which they operate.

Have you done research regarding who can craft something according to your specifications?

https://www.sjcdrums.com/pages/custom-shop-options
I will admit that I’m closer to following through with this adventure now that I ever have been.

I have indeed also found a couple of potential candidates for the work. I have yet to reach out to either of them because of lack of time on part. Also, thank you for the SJC link as a possibility. Very thoughtful.
 
I would also vote for the Yamaha mounts.
It’s funny that Yamaha has been mentioned a couple of times. Yamaha plays a BIG PART in why I’m considering this at all and what I’m going to do hopefully. (Build on what they currently offer/offered in the past but with some tweaks.)
 
Looking for stories or experiences about hiring/paying someone to manufacture from the ground up, a completely custom kit. And I mean custom, wherein you pick EVERYTHING, top to bottom, soup to nuts. I’m talking shell sizes, shell thickness, shell material, lugs, hoops, mounts, spurs, bass drum claws, finishes, the number of vents on each drum, I’m talking EVERYTHING.

I also want to clarify that I’m not speaking of getting a custom kit from DW or Ludwig. (Just to pick any company or two for illustrative purposes only.) Yes, you get to pick the color and sizes and possibly the shell types/materials, but everything else will be DW or Ludwig parts. (The lugs, the mounts, etc…you get the idea.)

As to why I’ve wanted to do this, there are a couple of reasons. After having way too many drum kits over the years, I think many of us that have bought a lot of kits like certain features from certain brands, but like other features from other brands as well. One way to look at it is to consider this little venture as building a “Frankenstein” kit, using what I consider the best bits from the various brands onto ONE drum kit.

To speak further about “why not get a kit from DW or Ludwig or whomever” is that for example, Ludwig doesn’t make high end birch shelled kits. Another example, if I wanted a tom mount on the bass drum and I wanted to go with DW, I’d have to use that god awful monstrosity they offer which is, well, not good. The point being, NONE of the existing big-name companies incorporate everything I’m looking for into one drum set. They all do what they do within a certain set of parameters and that’s fine. I’m not knocking either company I mentioned above or any company for that matter.

I’ve had a fluctuating desire to do this for about 10 years, but I’ve never done it. For the record, literally do not care about resell value at all. I’m not looking for any weird sizes or weird finishes for the matter. Everything is actually pretty standard comparatively speaking. I also have no means to do any of this myself.

Anyone ever do this? Anyone else ever contemplate doing something like this? I’d love to hear about your thoughts or experiences on this matter.
Maybe you haven't looked at the right drum company?

check Samus here assembling his custom kit and check the tom arms and things like that, EVERY company should offer this:

 
I had a custom kit built for me, B9D28BA6-AE87-489A-B655-774AD4B4E3A0.jpega beautiful and very powerful stave shell kit, maple shells, brass lugs (chrome plated), dark cherry red gloss finish. Yamaha bass drum spurs, slightly rounded 45 edges, sizes 22 x 14, 12, 13, 16. Great kit that sounds like no other, However, you can’t buy off the shelf stave kits so you have to go custom. I personally wouldn’t bother for a ply drum kit, the offerings from Yamaha, Ludwig, Sonor, Pearl, Gretsch, etc….have this covered.
 
relieve the thought;
"You're already custom-built"

😁

Ginger Baker to Buddy Rich to Shelia E. to Elvin and Philly Joe Jones have managed
 
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That's pretty much what I was trying to say... tried and true recipes have well sustained the best of the best. There's a lot of humility in that...they also wanted to actually play and not spend valuable time reinventing something outside of their wheelhouse.
 
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but I do like classics - it's all there..
 
Looking for stories or experiences about hiring/paying someone to manufacture from the ground up, a completely custom kit. And I mean custom, wherein you pick EVERYTHING, top to bottom, soup to nuts. I’m talking shell sizes, shell thickness, shell material, lugs, hoops, mounts, spurs, bass drum claws, finishes, the number of vents on each drum, I’m talking EVERYTHING.

I also want to clarify that I’m not speaking of getting a custom kit from DW or Ludwig. (Just to pick any company or two for illustrative purposes only.) Yes, you get to pick the color and sizes and possibly the shell types/materials, but everything else will be DW or Ludwig parts. (The lugs, the mounts, etc…you get the idea.)

As to why I’ve wanted to do this, there are a couple of reasons. After having way too many drum kits over the years, I think many of us that have bought a lot of kits like certain features from certain brands, but like other features from other brands as well. One way to look at it is to consider this little venture as building a “Frankenstein” kit, using what I consider the best bits from the various brands onto ONE drum kit.

To speak further about “why not get a kit from DW or Ludwig or whomever” is that for example, Ludwig doesn’t make high end birch shelled kits. Another example, if I wanted a tom mount on the bass drum and I wanted to go with DW, I’d have to use that god awful monstrosity they offer which is, well, not good. The point being, NONE of the existing big-name companies incorporate everything I’m looking for into one drum set. They all do what they do within a certain set of parameters and that’s fine. I’m not knocking either company I mentioned above or any company for that matter.

I’ve had a fluctuating desire to do this for about 10 years, but I’ve never done it. For the record, literally do not care about resell value at all. I’m not looking for any weird sizes or weird finishes for the matter. Everything is actually pretty standard comparatively speaking. I also have no means to do any of this myself.

Anyone ever do this? Anyone else ever contemplate doing something like this? I’d love to hear about your thoughts or experiences on this matter.
Check out Summit Drums in Ohio. Owner Gary Posey makes solid steam bent custom drums with re-rings from locally available wood. Your choice of wood, hardware, edges, etc.

I have a 5x14 black walnut snare drum with rock maple re-rings, solid brass single point lugs, triple flanged hoops and a trick throw. Beautiful drum.
 
What kind of shells are you thinking about? (wood type, plies, shell thickness, bearing edges etc) What's the overall sound you're going for, and your reasoning for choosing that specific wood type? Just trying to get a feel for what you want. It sounds like an exciting project!

I agree with the others that major drum manufacturers "have it figured out" with their recipes, and there could be some risky unknowns when making your own recipe. Custom kits tend to have a lot more quirks. However, I know that by going with your favorite hardware, the hardware quirks will be almost non-existent, and that's a fantastic benefit to making your own kit.

From a sound perspective, I have heard countless custom drum kits that have quirks to their sound (especially boutique drums and stave drums). Usually minor quirks, but being ultra picky, I tend to notice them right away. Quirks like: thin-sounding toms, not enough low end, 1 or more toms that have less sustain/resonance than the others (usually due to inadequate mounting), drums with narrow tuning ranges, drums with excessive mid-range, drums with unpleasant overtones, etc.

My recommendation would be to go with the tried and true "shell recipes" from Nordic or Keller. (Precision Drums uses Keller shells) I don't recall ever hearing a demo of a custom kit using shells from those companies that didn't sound great.
 
I’m talking shell sizes, shell thickness, shell material,
First decision: shell design & bearing edges.

Single ply, steam bent?
Stave?
3-ply?
Carbon Fiber?
Acrylic?

⬆️ The answer will determine who you contact for manufacturing.

What thicknesses?
Which wood?
Re-rings?

Will the bearing edges change as the diameter changes? Or will they remain constant?

Painted shell? Lacquer or urethane?
Stained shell?
Wrap?

I'm curious as to what decisions you've already made in this regard, and looking forward to your end results.

Oh! DW lugs? Large saucers turrets or the smaller style?
 
I have indeed also found a couple of potential candidates for the work. I have yet to reach out to either of them because of lack of time on part.
Can you share those companies so we know who are the contenders? Thx.

Also would love to know which design decisions you are set on as @cbphoto mentioned above.
Single ply, steam bent?
Stave?
3-ply?
Carbon Fiber?
Acrylic?
Or even some type of metal, e.g.: A&F or Independent Drum Lab and others.
 
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