I guess I should have said “try” the g14s or UV2s. I have yet to use them. I guess I was hoping for probably what you were hoping for in getting the open sound of a single ply with a little more durability. Evans describes them as “open” sounding with great sustain and volume.I played clear G1 over clear Genera Reso (10 mil) on my bubinga toms for over a decade. Nice, open tone with plenty of attack. I went to clear EC2 and I give it 4/5 stars. 2-ply never seemed to be a good use of the physics of a percussive membrane. Now I'm trying coated G14 and the higher harmonics are very muted compared to anything I've used since my old Sonor kit (c.1994–2004). After I record a few things I wanna try collectively raising the pitch on all the toms to see how things sound. Will I get the feel of a basketball or...?