I have to agree. Some things are just out of one hands.And this would be my reply to Will, should he spout such commentary in my direction.
(Not meaning to single you out here mate. Just using the quote you provided to have a dip back at Will. .)
What a romanticised crock of shite.
Having a "plan B" is not giving you permission to fail. It's providing more than one avenue for success. It's called keeping your options open. Something that every single human being should be willing to do in order to stave off starvation and extinction.
I thought plan b was become one of the highest paid Hollywood actors and then lose all the charisma that made him famous in the first place.Will Smith was asked once "if the rap thing had not turned out like it did, what was your plan b?" I loved his response. "There was no plan b. Having a plan b is giving yourself permission to fail".
Careful, that book will set you on a path!OK, I just checked this book out at the library.
Thanks BillRay for the recommendation.
This is one of the best paragraphs ever written on any forum anywhere, ever, period.Despite what romantic bullshit some artist may spout from behind the safety net of his multi million dollar bank balance. If the "rap thing" hadn't worked out, you wouldn't be lying broke in a gutter, too proud to rethink your approach, yet staunch in the knowledge that you didn't bother with a plan B......of that I'm convinced. So I think it's worth delving deeper into a line that I see as little more than a throw away. Something to say to the masses because it sounds cool, convincing and somewhat committed to the cause.
Yes. Hang around Hollywood enough, and you'll meet plenty of people who quite clearly needed a plan B. They may have once been signed, and perhaps even once had a gold or platinum album, or perhaps just never got that far. People in the late 40's, or 50's still living for the dream. Living no different that they did at 20.Despite what romantic bullshit some artist may spout from behind the safety net of his multi million dollar bank balance. If the "rap thing" hadn't worked out, you wouldn't be lying broke in a gutter, too proud to rethink your approach, yet staunch in the knowledge that you didn't bother with a plan B......of that I'm convinced. So I think it's worth delving deeper into a line that I see as little more than a throw away. Something to say to the masses because it sounds cool, convincing and somewhat committed to the cause.
And Steve is a perfect example of this. He certainly wasn't expecting to get fired from Journey. And while he bounced back, he has mentioned in many interviews how much of a blow it was to him at the time.. Anything can happen at any time that will knock your entire world off kilter and change will happen. That's what life is all about, the constant rigors and stress tests that make us who we are. "If you're not failing, you ain't tryin'..." said someone ho knows what's up...
Anyhow...Steve Smith turned me on to that book as well as the entirety of Dan Millman's work. Next one you should read is Body/Mind Mastery.
This is outstanding advice. The only problem is is that people don't know when to jettison people or stay with them. And how do you choose the cool people to hang with without looking like a desperate person looking for cool people to hang with? That could easily lock you out of alot of circles too. But Mr. Chambers makes a good point if you know how to be cool.In 1990 I met Dennis Chambers at a music store when the Brecker Brothers came through town. I asked him "How do I get to "the next level?"" And he said "There are no "levels" but there's "circles". It's who you play with and hang with so choose carefully."
He's been right so far! What, 24 years later... still great advice.
If that's all one asks for, then yes. "You will be treated only as badly as you allow yourself to be.""child, learn to live on a very small income surrounded by warped personalities that are bent on taking advantage of you whenever possible all so you can play music that someone else enjoys and will likely grate on your nerves after the first few play-throughs"
This is outstanding advice. The only problem is is that people don't know when to jettison people or stay with them. And how do you choose the cool people to hang with without looking like a desperate person looking for cool people to hang with? That could easily lock you out of alot of circles too. But Mr. Chambers makes a good point if you know how to be cool.
This should be how it is anyway though to a degree. There are really two strands to this.I think it's a bad idea to encourage kids to try and make a living from music. It's not 1960 anymore.
This will either: light a fire under his bottom just to prove you wrong
he/she will follow your advise and get his money elsewhere, but do music as a "2nd job".
I think it's irresponsible to encourage kids to make money from music. Not in 2014. Money taints music. But as a personal development tool, music is fantastic. But there's SUCH a glut of musicians these days. It's just not a smart path to go if you want to buy a house someday. Only a miniscule percentage of people actually make enough from music to live comfortably. Plus it's not a healthy lifestyle, living on the road, up all night, sleeping all day, drugs, alcohol, crap food, questionable sex partners.
I am SO glad I get my money elsewhere. If I had to take every crappy playing job just to make my bills, I wouldn't be NEARLY as happy as I am. Plus the money just plain sucks. Factor your expenses in and McDonalds workers make more. I do it for love because making a decent living from music these days is not lucrative anymore like it used to be.
Financially, with music, my best year was 2012. I did 106 dates. I made a grand total of $7518.00 USD. If you subtract all the money paid out for gas, tolls, sticks, heads.... it probably cuts that number in half. I can make that in 2 weeks doing electric. There's really no contest.
Much respect for guys like Bermuda, Tony, Dave Major, Bill Ray for actually making it work. You guys are the exceptions.
This links with my point 2 above and I think its an important lesson. I wish someone had told me about all those types of possibilities when I was young. I was far too focussed on being in an original band.Rogue, Your wife makes a living from music. What's wrong with that? Teaching music is making a living from music. Bo right here from this thread makes a living in music at Disney. Another very respectable job. Too many people on boards like this think making a living at music means playing in a band and gigging. Trying to write a hit song and go on the road. Most people I know who make a living in music don't play in a band and never play in bars. I know quite a few people who make a very decent living in music. They get paychecks and benefits and even endorsement deals.
I am just one of many, many parents who whole heartedly supports there children in pursueing a career in music. My own child may never play a bar gig in his life the way it looks, yet I have no doubt he'll make himself a very decent living.