Well I can't seem to edit the title. It should read Brooklyn/Club Dates. After watching the Portsmouth Drum Center shoot out for Gretsch, and Ludwig. I'm really wanting a Brooklyn, Club Dates, or Classic Maple kit. I've been looking at used ones. I definitely want a 20" kick and there's not many of those in the Brooklyn kits used. There seems to be a lot of 18" and bigger than 20" in the brooks. I'm thinking about selling my Tama performers to help pay for the new kit, I don't know though. Do any of you that own a Brooklyn or Club Dates (the newest ones with imperial lugs) have any pros and cons comments about them? I have tapped on some Classic Maples at my local store, but have only heard the Brooks & C.C.s on the net.