Sorry. At some point posts like #18 went from being funny to offensive. It's hard to sometimes not bite the finger that waves in your face. Wont happen again.Let's curtail the attacks.
Except Travis Orbin, which further proves the point. He is the ONE metal freelancer. (At least I think so. I don't really know anything about metal drumming).
Yes but call a kid out in front of what looks like 1000 people, a giant group of his peers, just to possibly insult him? That's not very adult and definitely not very professional. Put your kid in his shoes. Not cool.
Metal isnt about making money. It's about making powerful music, but it's still music. For some reason that always seems to be forgotten. We dont all get into this to be rich and famous.
Sounds like a great guy lol.Oh, I don’t think it’s cool. But for UNT under Schietroma, that’s MILD. He was/is severely mentally unbalanced. Severely and profoundly. But you had to keep him happy if you wanted to avoid being physically assaulted, and avoid not graduating.
Sounds like a great guy lol.
I've worked for a few. I always end up quitting. Cant handle it.That’s what happens when seriously unbalanced people are allowed to keep positions of power.
When I played jazz in my college, our director was heavily influenced by his time at UNT, and we even ran the UNT scale syllabus. Would you say this Schietroma guy is the exception or the norm for teachers at UNT? If so, I’m glad I didn’t attend. I can get insulted on any given day just hanging out at the Pro Drum Shop by people actually working in the industry ?Oh, I don’t think it’s cool. But for UNT under Schietroma, that’s MILD. He was/is severely mentally unbalanced. Severely and profoundly. But you had to keep him happy if you wanted to avoid being physically assaulted, and avoid not graduating.
When I played jazz in my college, our director was heavily influenced by his time at UNT, and we even ran the UNT scale syllabus. Would you say this Schietroma guy is the exception or the norm for teachers at UNT? If so, I’m glad I didn’t attend. I can get insulted on any given day just hanging out at the Pro Drum Shop by people actually working in the industry ?
Nah. You misconstrued my post. Please reread. Jim was very cordial and gentle. He knew the kid was young (16), plus almost everyone knew the kid cuz he was so good. Jim knew the kid had a future if he wanted to diversify/expand his genre/repertoire. I knew/know the kid (now a married man) and he felt stoked and very encouraged by Jim’s gentle nudge.That wasnt very cool of Jim. Why possibly discourage the kid? Can Jim play speed metal?
Dont people realize someone has to play metal drums? We dont just exist for johnwesley to ignorantly make assholish fun out of.
I'm all for adverse environments to make you better, but sometimes I look back on some music teachers I had and wondered where the line was between "tough love" and "abuse" was. I took a few lessons with Ed Shaughnessy back in the 90s and he was that kind of hard-ass "work for a living" guy, just as my band director at my college was (who also played with Maynard Ferguson and Stan Kenton before going into teaching), but both of them seemed to genuinely care about you. This Schietroma just sounds abusive which is a shame. I think when Freddie Gruber was giving lessons, the only thing bad was that you didn't know when he'd get to you, so you could be waiting while he worked with another student, or you could be in the lesson and never know when it was gonna end.Schietroma was the worst, so far as I know...but I’ve heard the whole environment back in the day was pretty bad.
The irony is that the only really good pro players they’ve produced (under Schietroma) have been drum set players, and Ed Soph was responsible for teaching those guys. Not Schietroma. I think Ed Stephan, timpani with the San Francisco Symphony went there, but he studied with Kal Cherry, MY timpani teacher, not anybody at UNT.