best cymbals for metal and rock

Diril's. It's time for some guys to start to recognise there's more than three cymbal companies in exsistence. This is a newer brand that are absolutely fantastic. The company has been subcontracted by Meinl to make their highly acclaimed Byzance line of Cymbals. From my understanding they also sell plates to Paiste. I only say this because it gives you an idea of what to expect. Their D series and ICE series are aimed primarily at the rock/metal crowd. I have Both A really good comparison would be to Zildjian. The D series are very K' ish and the ICE series with their brilliant mirror like finish are much like Custom A's. These are made in the very Traditional Turkish way. Handmade all the way. These are honestly some of the nicest pies I have ever played. They are priced very competetivly perhaps the lowest of any real pro level cymbals, easily cheaper than any other Turkish brand out there. I also think The brilliant finish on the ICE series is simply stunning.
 
IL DUCE said:
Diril's. It's time for some guys to start to recognise there's more than three cymbal companies in exsistence. This is a newer brand that are absolutely fantastic. The company has been subcontracted by Meinl to make their highly acclaimed Byzance line of Cymbals. From my understanding they also sell plates to Paiste. I only say this because it gives you an idea of what to expect. Their D series and ICE series are aimed primarily at the rock/metal crowd. I have Both A really good comparison would be to Zildjian. The D series are very K' ish and the ICE series with their brilliant mirror like finish are much like Custom A's. These are made in the very Traditional Turkish way. Handmade all the way. These are honestly some of the nicest pies I have ever played. They are priced very competetivly perhaps the lowest of any real pro level cymbals, easily cheaper than any other Turkish brand out there. I also think The brilliant finish on the ICE series is simply stunning.
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Hey IL DUCE... thanks for your input, it is nice to hear everybody's take on the cymbal world. I hear really good things about Diril, but I think the reason nobody else mentions them is because most of them probably don't have experience using them. Also, the simple fact that many retailers don't stock them makes it pretty difficult to gain experience with them. I would love to play on a set of them as I'm sure they are very nice cymbals, especially considering his background (working under Agop and Mehmet). Until I do, however, I can only make recommendations based on personal experience.
 
caddywumpus said:
It depends how hard you hit. If you hit hard, I would recommend the Rock cymbals by Zildjian or Sabian. If you don't hit as hard and want more "character" from your cymbals, the medium or medium-thin weights would serve you well...
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Don't forget about thin cymbals... I have mostly thin cymbals on my setup(well the crashes that is) and my band plays metal. Those crashes can be heard over the guitars quite well.
 
Lisbon '67 said:
Don't forget about thin cymbals... I have mostly thin cymbals on my setup(well the crashes that is) and my band plays metal. Those crashes can be heard over the guitars quite well.
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Sure, thinner crashes can be heard over the guitar cabinets, and they sure "open up" quickly, but their sustain quickly drops in volume after they're struck. If you want more volume and sustain from your cymbals, go thicker. If you want your crashes to be heard and then quickly duck out of the way, sound-wise, then thinner works great.

Maybe get some of each so you have options...
 
for me , i would not be afraid to mix up my cymbals, as it,s the sound that you want, not a brand name. this is what i,m doing now,my first kit in over 20 yrs, i know what i want, just have to hear it
cheers ian
 
i would suggest meinl mb20, they are fantastic cymbals for metal and rock and any other style you want to play, they are very universal, but i wouldnt play them at a wedding :p They are quite loud from memory, but they are good cymbals. Jason Bittner(Shadows Fall) uses them on his kit, look him up in Drummerworlds video archive and you can hear the mb20's :).
 
jcase1994 said:
thanks but i would like to stay with 1 brand really, so would u say sabian, zildjian, or paiste
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why stay with one brand? the only people who should use 1 brand are the ones endorsed by the companys. other then that u should get what sounds good to you. try testing some out at a drum store.
 
jcase1994 said:
im in too playing every thing from def leppard to motley crue to lamb of god.

i have, zildjian 16" oriental thrash china, 16" zht china, 16"zxt medium crash, 18" zht efx, 14" zxt medium hi hats, 12" zxt flash splash, and a 20" zxt ride....

i am going to buy some z customs or evan k's but want to know if there are any beter cymbal companys for that type of music before i spend alot of money on them.

i also need to sell some of my drum stuff ;
mapex p750a single pedal
mapex t550a throne
and maybe some of my cymbals
if intressted send a post to this thread.

thankyou.
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I have a Z custon crash and the mega bell ride, i have ever looked back. Paiste Rudes might be a good option though but just a warning Z's are loud and nothing but loud!
 
Every line from paiste offers a good selection of cymbals for rock and/or metal. I use alpha rock crashes, which are more than enough to go over a 5150 stack and a marshall stack at the same time. i have some 3000 rude hihats and 3000 rude rides, alpha rock crashes, and 2002 rockbell ride. the only paiste i wouldnt use for hardrock/metal is traditionals.

signature line has Heavy full reflectors (which is what Nicko Mcbrain uses), power crashes. Rude has thin crashes, crash/rides (these are brash in my opinion) wild crashes. 2002 has power crashes, wild crashes (brilliant finish with a tad of darkness, but can cut and are bright as well) Alpha rock crashes are the best alpha crash in my opinion, most musical, i dont like the thins and mediums so much.

just my opinion on paiste's.
scott
 
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