Diril's. It's time for some guys to start to recognise there's more than three cymbal companies in exsistence. This is a newer brand that are absolutely fantastic. The company has been subcontracted by Meinl to make their highly acclaimed Byzance line of Cymbals. From my understanding they also sell plates to Paiste. I only say this because it gives you an idea of what to expect. Their D series and ICE series are aimed primarily at the rock/metal crowd. I have Both A really good comparison would be to Zildjian. The D series are very K' ish and the ICE series with their brilliant mirror like finish are much like Custom A's. These are made in the very Traditional Turkish way. Handmade all the way. These are honestly some of the nicest pies I have ever played. They are priced very competetivly perhaps the lowest of any real pro level cymbals, easily cheaper than any other Turkish brand out there. I also think The brilliant finish on the ICE series is simply stunning.