Not fair........I'd only change lives with him if I could go back to 83' and bang Heather Locklear in her prime.i bet Pink did some stuff that would make you 2" shorter as well............Pam Anderson never impressed me.
I really question his taste in not hanging on to Pink. Heather Locklear does not impress me. Pink is a legit artist. She’s awesome and I would marry her and have 6 kids tomorrow if I weren’t already married. Oh well.Not fair........I'd only change lives with him if I could go back to 83' and bang Heather Locklear in her prime.i bet Pink did some stuff that would make you 2" shorter as well............Pam Anderson never impressed me.
Yeah, and "If my uncle had breasts he'd be my aunt". Forgive me but you seem awfully bitter. Be it known that I can't name of one Motley Crue's songs. My take here is you can't argue with success.
Success at what? Motley Crue’s hit songs are all vaguely embarrassing. “Shout at the Devil”? The heck is that? LOL
I mean, I hate the idea that my embarrassing young adulthood follies would have been broadcast to the world like Tommy’s were. But that’s often the price of fame in your 20s.
And if the lifestyle was/is so great, why did they need drugs so much? Drugs are not something a content, balanced person uses heavily and regularly.
Did Tommy actually play on that recording? And I can’t take those guys seriously. I’ve got nothing against them, but let’s be honest—they were probably not taking themselves entirely seriously either. It’s a little too over-the-top to be totally believable. Not that I have anything against them.Why are you in this thread other than talking crap about a drummer that a lot of hair band guys like? Have you listened to Shout at the Devil, the drum part? It's great, it grooves, it rocks, it has character. Jeez man. Take that stick out yer butt.
And if we concentrated on every star's personal life, we'd be SO depressed or pissed off, we wouldn't like anyone. Get over yourself.
[snip] I even met a second engineer at Ocean Way studios in L.A. who worked with Metallica and he told me there are vaults of tape that the band recorded where Lars just couldn't get through a whole song. Much of their material is edited cuts spliced together. So I'm hip to what they do to make hit records, maybe this has jaded me about alot of artists. [snip]
And with the truth coming out that favorite live albums weren’t actually live, has kinda jaded me even more. I even read somewhere that Thin Lizzys’ “Alice and Dangerous” wasn’t very alive or dangerous. My world has gone askew!I worked at a nice NYC recording studio for a couple years, and saw things and met people I never would have imagined beforehand.
One of these was a young guitarist/songwriter not to be named here, who's producer had locked out the whole studio for a month. They brought in literal truckloads of vintage guitars and amps, some of the best players in town... and a ProTools engineer with a separate rig to comp all the takes into usable tracks.
This was for a fairly low-level artist, so the idea of a major act doing it is completely believable imo.
All of those drummers you mentioned, some more than others (especially Lars IMO) their playing style was crucial to the whole sound of the band. So it's not always how "good" someone is. What matters is how much would they be missed? What happens to the music without him or her?I'm no fan of Motley Crue or Tommy Lee but I think he does a good job in that band and he probably worked his ass off to get where he's at. I've never understood the bashing of him and guys like Lars Ulrich, Phil Rudd, Ringo, Charlie Watts, etc. All of those guys might not be technically the greatest drummers ever but they all do a great job in the bands that they're in . . . . (snipped)
I see your point but that is kind of my point as well. I think that everyone that I mentioned are so well known that they would and should be missed. They could all technically be replaced, there's always someone out there that could play as well as or even better, but that could be said about pretty much any drummer in any band with very few exceptions. All of those that I mentioned have reached a level of success that I think deserves respect whether they have the greatest chops or not. We should celebrate any drummer that is as well known in their band as the singer or guitar player. When Black Sabbath replaced Bill Ward for their last album and tour, I as a fan didn't support that move and didn't go see them on that tour because to me he is as important in that band as Ozzy is. I'm sure that the guy that they had replace him did a good job but to me it wasn't the same and Bill deserved to be there as much as anyone else in that band. Sorry, I'm rambling at this point. I normally wouldn't even reply to a thread like this, I would read it and move on but Coronavirus and lack of being around people have made me extremely bored!All of those drummers you mentioned, some more than others (especially Lars IMO) their playing style was crucial to the whole sound of the band. So it's not always how "good" someone is. What matters is how much would they be missed? What happens to the music without him or her?
And in some cases, frankly all you do need is someone with chops. Take for example all those neoclassical guitar shredders that emerged in the 80s. They all had world class drummers laying down tracks on their records (Steve Smith, Atma Anur, Deen Castronovo), and really, any one of them could have played on any album and sounded great.