Anyone know what kind of gear/model late drummer Derrick Plourde used on his kit?

TxGroove

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Here's my pedal.Screenshot_2020-10-06-16-20-09(1).png1st Gen. Iron Cobra w/ white Jazz Pro slug beater. Also, I take the thread count back, i have it even looser, three threads tight!
 

Q-Ball Drummer

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Same here, haven't played another stick since and they're definitely worth the price. You picked the right sticks IMO.
Yeah, I've found over the summer the Oak 5B is the stick for me. I use the Promark DC10 Oak marching sticks for warming up, however they're discontinued. The store I got them at just happened to have old stock and there were a bunch of pairs of them.
Here's my pedal.1st Gen. Iron Cobra w/ white Jazz Pro slug beater.
That's a sharp pedal setup! The white color of the beater really pops! Sounds like the looser tension is working well. I also forgot to add that the titanium beater shaft of the Jazz Pro's also play a role in its weight. The Punch Collar, Standard, and Junior series use the stainless steel shafts.
 

TxGroove

Junior Member
Yeah, I've found over the summer the Oak 5B is the stick for me. I use the Promark DC10 Oak marching sticks for warming up, however they're discontinued. The store I got them at just happened to have old stock and there were a bunch of pairs of them.

That's a sharp pedal setup! The white color of the beater really pops! Sounds like the looser tension is working well. I also forgot to add that the titanium beater shaft of the Jazz Pro's also play a role in its weight. The Punch Collar, Standard, and Junior series use the stainless steel shafts.
Are the 5B sticks thicker than the 2B? I'm looking for a pair of marching sticks, how has your experience with them gone so far?

Thanks, It's working like a charm, delivers a nice solid punch. Also, recently oiled the bearings for maximum smoothness.
Now all I need is a white drum kit and I'll be 100% as my OCD tells me otherwise...
Yes, titanium it is, would like to know the weight differential?
 

Q-Ball Drummer

Junior Member
Are the 5B sticks thicker than the 2B? I'm looking for a pair of marching sticks, how has your experience with them gone so far?

Thanks, It's working like a charm, delivers a nice solid punch. Also, recently oiled the bearings for maximum smoothness.
5B’s are thinner. They’re middle ground between a 5A and 2B.

The marching sticks work out really well for warming up. I‘ve found that shorter, thicker marching sticks are more effective so your kit sticks feel longer and thinner. But like I said the DC10’s are discontinued, what I bought was old stock.

I hear I get more punch and dynamics with the Slug beater that I did with the DW beater on my 5000. They felt heavy when I would do A-B comparisons, even without the beater weights. I felt I couldn’t pull off double strokes with precision like I can with the Sluggers. Combined with the Evans Aramid Fiber pads on a clear Remo Powerstroke 4 it’s the perfect kick drum setup.
 

TxGroove

Junior Member
5B’s are thinner. They’re middle ground between a 5A and 2B.

The marching sticks work out really well for warming up. I‘ve found that shorter, thicker marching sticks are more effective so your kit sticks feel longer and thinner. But like I said the DC10’s are discontinued, what I bought was old stock.

I hear I get more punch and dynamics with the Slug beater that I did with the DW beater on my 5000. They felt heavy when I would do A-B comparisons, even without the beater weights. I felt I couldn’t pull off double strokes with precision like I can with the Sluggers. Combined with the Evans Aramid Fiber pads on a clear Remo Powerstroke 4 it’s the perfect kick drum setup.
Interesting... Makes sense, especially for warm-up. I might look into getting a pair or budget marching sticks.

True, I owned the DW 3000 pedal (with bulky stock pedal) for the longest i can remember before upgrading to a Tama IC. I never even knew how to control my doubles and thought it was just my technique, until I moved to the Iron Cobra pedal with slug. Though, I own and used various beaters, I was amazed how much control/power I had with a lighter setup behind the beater.

Nice bass setup. I'm using a Aquarian clear Powerstroke II w/muffler ring and a Aquarian Super-Thin pad.. I'm soon going to switch it out with the Remo clear Powerstoke II with the Uni-batter badge from SlugPercussion. I wanna test the Remo PII and see how I adapt to the change. Read good things about them.
 

Q-Ball Drummer

Junior Member
16 years ago yesterday, the master himself left us. I found two excellent photos of him from people sharing stories of seeing and interacting with Derrick.

This first one is from sometime in 1992. With the white Ludwig's, 8x14 Gretsch snare, and drumsticks butt-end out!

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Montreal, March 9th 1995. I'm glad I finally found a photo of him using the Brown Classic Maple's with the Wagon. Look at how close the crash is to the rack tom!

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This photo also tells us something else; that snare is NOT a Supraphonic! It does not have the Imperial lugs or a beaded shell! I'll be looking into this more when I get a chance so we can update the gear list.
 
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TxGroove

Junior Member
16 years ago yesterday, the master himself left us. I found two excellent photos of him from people sharing stories of seeing and interacting with Derrick.

This first one is from sometime in 1992. With the white Ludwig's, 8x14 Gretsch snare, and drumsticks butt-end out!

white-kit-92.jpg


Montreal, March 9th 1995. I'm glad I finally found a photo of him using the Brown Classic Maple's with the Wagon. Look at how close the crash is to the rack tom!



This photo also tells us something else; that snare is NOT a Supraphonic! It does not have the Imperial lugs or a beaded shell! I'll be looking into this more when I get a chance so we can update the gear list.

16 years ago yesterday, the master himself left us. I found two excellent photos of him from people sharing stories of seeing and interacting with Derrick.

This first one is from sometime in 1992. With the white Ludwig's, 8x14 Gretsch snare, and drumsticks butt-end out!



Montreal, March 9th 1995. I'm glad I finally found a photo of him using the Brown Classic Maple's with the Wagon. Look at how close the crash is to the rack tom!



This photo also tells us something else; that snare is NOT a Supraphonic! It does not have the Imperial lugs or a beaded shell! I'll be looking into this more when I get a chance so we can update the gear list.
Time flies, such a legend...
Wow, very interesting fine! Seeing the Montreal picture, the drums look more slightly angled upwards, slightly less than 180°. Rather than some of the older images, (mostly on the white kit) being more angled inward 45°. I do find that a flatter setup, it's easier to get on top better for that full tom sound but that could just be the way the photo is angled... Overall, in this image, kit looks big and tall, and everything looks stilted, now that we can see a decent photo of Brown Town.

Find out the actually snare model and I'll change it up in no time.
 
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Q-Ball Drummer

Junior Member
in this image, kit looks big and tall, and everything looks stilted, now that we can see a decent photo of Brown Town.

Find out the actually snare model and I'll change it up in no time.
I also noted that too. With the White Kit, his rack tom was more inclined as I’m guessing that’s what was more comfortable for him at the time. Clearly by 95 with Brown Town, he reduced the incline angle. I can certainly say I’ve had ridiculous tom angles and I’ve changed them overtime. Its also interesting he used such a large depth rack tom with what appears to be a low throne height.

Still working on finding it the snare! It’s definitely some kind of 6.5x14 metal snare, just the make of it escapes me.

In the meantime, here’s a new video for the Plourde Archive! 8/26/1994 at Berkeley Square!

 

TxGroove

Junior Member
I also noted that too. With the White Kit, his rack tom was more inclined as I’m guessing that’s what was more comfortable for him at the time. Clearly by 95 with Brown Town, he reduced the incline angle. I can certainly say I’ve had ridiculous tom angles and I’ve changed them overtime. Its also interesting he used such a large depth rack tom with what appears to be a low throne height.

Still working on finding it the snare! It’s definitely some kind of 6.5x14 metal snare, just the make of it escapes me.

In the meantime, here’s a new video for the Plourde Archive! 8/26/1994 at Berkeley Square!
I had my experience with inclining also. Not that inclining your toms is a bad thing at any means, if it works for you ergonomically, do what suits you best. A lot of jazz guys do it. Especially players who use traditional grip, which makes sense. I'd rather hear a tom hit rather than a rim shot any day!

You'll find it out in time. I'll also look around and try to help. Do you have a starting point on what brand it might be?

Done. Interesting, totally missed this and it's the full set!
 

Q-Ball Drummer

Junior Member
Haven’t posted in awhile in checking this thread. I just stumbled across this:


Lagwagon in Milan, February ‘95. High quality HD transfer, originally shot on 8mm film. Audio is stellar, Derrick’s drums cut through fantastic. Completely blows the version that’s been online for years out of the water. More to add the Plourde Archives.

I hope everyone is doing well!
 

TxGroove

Junior Member
Haven’t posted in awhile in checking this thread. I just stumbled across this:


Lagwagon in Milan, February ‘95. High quality HD transfer, originally shot on 8mm film. Audio is stellar, Derrick’s drums cut through fantastic. Completely blows the version that’s been online for years out of the water. More to add the Plourde Archives.

I hope everyone is doing well!
Awesome. Will add to the playlist ASAP. Been awhile since I been on here myself but haven't forgotten about the thread. Been well and I hope the same for you and everybody else.

Also, want to give a Happy B-Day to Derrick and the Plourde Family!

P.S.: still trying to find the info on his metal snare drum. I still believe it's a Superphonic type Ludwig drum as I've seen two different style "lug" designs (bow-tie & slopped) on this particular model Ludwig snare drum. The same one he's actually using in the link above. I'd put money that it's probably a Superphonic Ludwig drum.
 

TxGroove

Junior Member
Recently stumbled across a posted Lagwagon video from Oct. 31, 1994. If you haven't seen it, you should check it out.

 

Quickwitz

Junior Member
Sounds awesome! My kit is a 10”, 12”, 16” tom setup but I just use the 12” rack tom right now. I have a DW 5000 Accelerator double with the two Slug Beaters with the half ounce weight collar, but just use the single pedal right now (gotta keep those double strokes in check!) I used an Iron Cobra with a DW beater for the longest time but when I moved I had a long layoff of drumming and when I got back on the kit it felt way too smooth. I tried the DW and it felt better. Putting the Slug beater on has made it the perfect setup (thanks Derrick)!

I’m looking at getting a Tama Granstar set from the 80’s as my next kit. A lot of drummers from that scene used power size toms to get their sound. Derrick of course, also Jordan Burns (Strung Out/Pulley) and Sean Sellers (Good Riddance) to name a few.
Ever get that Granstar kit? Might have one you’d be interested in. First generation. Kyle Matowitz
 

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Q-Ball Drummer

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Hope everyone is doing well! Some more Plourde literature that would be of enjoyment. Author S.W. Lauden is releasing a book soon called 'The Forbidden Beat - Perspectives On Punk Drumming', which comes out February 22nd. Joey Cape from Lagwagon contributed an essay titled 'The Angry Builder', which is about Derrick. The Santa Barbara Independent published an article that contains an excerpt of The Caper's essay, which I very much enjoyed. It also includes a conversation with Lauden, Cape, and Marko DeSantis from Bad Astronaut discussing Derrick and how he became the drummer we remember today. As I've waxed poetic about Plourde's drumming on here and elsewhere, I'll definitely pick up a copy of this when it comes out (Kye Smith also penned some words for this book). Here's the SB Independent article with the conversation: https://www.independent.com/2022/02/06/lagwagons-joey-cape-remembers-derrick-plourde/
 

fabior

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Hey, I'm not a drummer but a huge Lagwagon and Derrick fan since the early '90s. I respect the dedication of this group in keeping Derrick's legacy alive.

I have friends who are friends with the band and folks from that scene, and I have some decent shots of Section 8 and early Lagwagon that might help with better identifying Derrick's gear.

I'm going to split them in a few posts. This is Section 8 before Joey and others joined the band, there's Derrick behind the kit, Dave Hanacek on vocals, Marko DeSantis on bass, Darren Yardley and Chris Flippin on guitars.
 

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fabior

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This is Lagwagon from 1992, a west coast tour with NOFX and a few shots from the DUH sessions.
 

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fabior

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Same as before, more shots.
 

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fabior

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As before, this is the last batch. Hope this helps!

Peace!
 

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Q-Ball Drummer

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Hey, I'm not a drummer but a huge Lagwagon and Derrick fan since the early '90s. I respect the dedication of this group in keeping Derrick's legacy alive.

I have friends who are friends with the band and folks from that scene, and I have some decent shots of Section 8 and early Lagwagon that might help with better identifying Derrick's gear.
Wow! Thanks so much for sharing these Fabior! I’ve actually never seen these before, especially those Section 8 photos.

Before buying Bomer's white Ludwigs, it appears he used a hybrid kit. That's actually the same set seen at the end of the video for Heartbreaking Music, the dark colored one with all the stickers. It looks like he always favored Paiste and Zildjian; in one of those early Section 8 photos he's using a 20" Rude Ride/Crash (I believe its a 3000 Series). In that same image, he's using a 3000 Series Rude Crash and a Zildjian A Series Medium Crash. Paiste 3000 hi hats too as well in those early days.

In the Lagwagon photos, we see the 8x14 Gretsch snare that he used on Duh, Trashed, and their respective tours. It appears to be a natural finish, not white in the photos its in (@TxGroove we may need to update that). Those photos of Lagwagon in the gym-looking place is the Eureka Vets Hall, someone filmed their set and you can see the people behind the band taking photos. It looks like during the recording of Duh, he used two Zildjian A Crashes. Both appear to be the A Series of the Medium Thin/Medium persuasion.

Again, thanks so much for sharing these! If you got a chance to read the thread there's a few stories I shared from a friend of his I conversed with a few years ago. Hope everyone is doing well!
 

TxGroove

Junior Member
As before, this is the last batch. Hope this helps!

Peace!
Wow, this is really awesome Fabior! Appreciate the photos and you taking your time to share some of your exclusive story and work on the forum. Helps a lot with clarification and is always welcomed.

We put up a gear list (if you click page 2 and scroll down you'll find it). Would like for you to check it and let us know if it looks right or if anything should be added, if you know more additional details.

If you don't want to or have time to, it's cool, the images are more than I can ask for and I appreciate you taking time in sharing them.
 
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