You need to do that Larry. You've never heard them outside the sonic confines of your basement. Those babies need to breathe, & when they do, you'll roar! Go on - shock yourselfAgain, guilty as everyone else here with gear lust but I know great drums don't make me a better player. If that were the case, I'd gig the Gurus lol.
Corr blimey! ;pThe gear is part of the dream, surely. Because if you had your dream kit, you'd also have the skillz that would show it off to its best advantage, wouldn't you? No point having one without the other.
Unless, of course, you're me, sitting sparklily behind your dream kit and not even holding drumsticks:
You're NOT gigging the Gurus? WTH?Again, guilty as everyone else here with gear lust but I know great drums don't make me a better player. If that were the case, I'd gig the Gurus lol.
Thats the truth!!.I Will add ,As a 60 year old, thats one of my regrets.Wish i would have spent the time and money as a youngster defining the art,I Know your never to old but................And on the original point of dream kits,Now that i have more money,i like better drums. Sorry but im more inspired behind a top end kit as opposed to a entry level kit.Play better? Probably not but a hell alot more fun.That said,i own mid level drums but.......,find myself throwing down money on Nice cymbals and a more snares.......Im addictedI'm not sure what lessons cost these days but imagine how much better we would all be if we spent, 3, 5 or 10k on lessons rather than custom drums.
Excellent advice Jeff, I wish I had thought of this before! Plus it's a great exercice on the pad when the family is asleep. I'll start tonight with Mr Bellson's book.Tommy Igoe told me once that not enough teachers teach vocabulary. A great place to start is Louie Bellsons Modern reading text in 4/4. That's where he started me.
Just tap quarters with your foot and play the pages hand to hand. You will be amazed at how many cool rhythmic ideas you wil be introduced to.
Another place is The New Breed by Gary Chester. As a matter of fact you can use the Beloson Book as your melody source for the Chester book.
Do it my nan, you'll thank me
Ed-zackery!! Think how good they'd sound in MY basement! Just pack those Gurus up and send 'em to Michigan. I'll post sonic clips on YT.You need to do that Larry. You've never heard them outside the sonic confines of your basement. Those babies need to breathe, & when they do, you'll roar! Go on - shock yourself
Me, too. I have the skills I want/need. I'm still searching for "my" sound.If a drummer's job is to make others sound good, then I'm already achieving that
THIS. That's why I spend time talking about gear.I understand the idea of "it's not the drums, it's the drummer", It's not the arrow, it's the Indian". these phrases work when you have the goods to show for it, but not when you need the sound you hear in your head. fancying the sounds is not the same as having them. It's difficult to feel comfortable and creative without the confidence of the sound in your head, and that confidence comes from experience.
It's not that weird with all due respect...What a weird thread.
Agreed, agreed, agreed. No one's accusing anyone of being 'shallow' for wanting fine gear. I'm just saying, as in my earlier post, that some of my drumming idols sounded unbelievable on less-than-ideal equipment. So my quest has always been to get my skill set to the point that I can play ANYTHING and MAKE it sound good - just like Benny and Al.It's not that weird with all due respect...
No one's saying that a drummer is shallow because of their love about drum gear, this thread's about the fact that there's more discussion about drum gear than drumming skills, it's only a fact, not a controversy.
I get the bit about top drum lines sounding better (theoretically) and in many cases, yes, it does makes some difference and certainly act as a motivation factor. But the "sounding better" is inevitably linked with "tuning skills", so unless you have the necessary skills to actually bring out the best sounds (very subjective topic here) it will sound as bad (or as good) as an entry level kit. The bottom line is that drumming skills are far more important than the gear you're using and an audience will remember a good drummer and have probably no clue whatsoever what gear the said drummer was using.
I also get the bit that it's more enjoyable to play a top of the line kit rather than an entry cheapo level kit, more enjoyable? Yes, a better drummer? Not sure about that.
To be honest, I've seen and heard so many times drummers playing a top of the line kit and sounding plain horrible with very poor drumming skills, I witnessed the opposite too where a drummer was smoking on a entry level kit both in drumming skills and sounding very good, the saying "it's not the drums, it's the drummer" makes sense then and to a certain extend it's so true.
But hey... we're drummers, we love drums, cymbals, pedals and whatever ... but it's because we are drummers and that's has nothing to do with musicianship, you get hired because of your skills, not because of what gear you're using.
So, it's a perfectly valid observation from Uncle Larry, it's not weird at all