Amazon sells fake sticks??

TK-421

Senior Member
I doubt the drumsticks are fake. Counterfeiting is still a complex process, even w/ the ability to print at home using decent pro-sumer equipment. The investment vs. margins vs volume needed for profit on drumsticks just wouldn't be worth it.
If it were, say, a Chinese drumstick manufacturer already making cheap sticks, then it would cost very little to slap a competitor's logo on it. Or perhaps someone orders those sticks in bulk for super cheap and asks them to be shipped without any labels on the sticks. Then this person could very easily put a Zildjian or Vic Firth or whatever label on the sticks and jack up the price considerably.

The point is, counterfeiting is already happening on a massive scale. Why would drum gear be immune to that?
 

Lee-Bro

Senior Member
If it were, say, a Chinese drumstick manufacturer already making cheap sticks, then it would cost very little to slap a competitor's logo on it. Or perhaps someone orders those sticks in bulk for super cheap and asks them to be shipped without any labels on the sticks. Then this person could very easily put a Zildjian or Vic Firth or whatever label on the sticks and jack up the price considerably.

The point is, counterfeiting is already happening on a massive scale. Why would drum gear be immune to that?
No doubt counterfeiting happens large scale. I akin faking drumsticks to making counterfeit $1 bills. It takes just as much effort to make fake $10s, $20s, $50s, $100s, (from what I understand). So why not fake the larger items where the margins are better?

As I said, I doubt the sticks are fake. That doesn't mean someone isn't doing exactly what you're describing. And there is definitely a LOT of counterfeit merch coming out of China. I've gotten burnt on a couple hockey jerseys because of that.
 

TK-421

Senior Member
No doubt counterfeiting happens large scale. I akin faking drumsticks to making counterfeit $1 bills. It takes just as much effort to make fake $10s, $20s, $50s, $100s, (from what I understand). So why not fake the larger items where the margins are better?

As I said, I doubt the sticks are fake. That doesn't mean someone isn't doing exactly what you're describing. And there is definitely a LOT of counterfeit merch coming out of China. I've gotten burnt on a couple hockey jerseys because of that.
If you read that article I linked to in an earlier post, you‘ll see that everything from fake tweezers, umbrellas and bird feeders to fake oven gloves are being sold through Amazon. So clearly the problem is not only with high dollar items. So again, why not fake sticks? Especially since the OP stated that the logos came off almost instantly. In nearly 40 years of playing, I’ve never once encountered that.
 

JUZZI

Well-known member
Just to update you, I did go into my local music store where I usually get my sticks. I told the shop owner I suspected that I bought fake vic firth sticks from Amazon. He did say he had a lot of customers come into him who had experienced the same issue. So YES Amazon are selling fake sticks, it's not just me who has had this experience.

Lesson learnt! Always buy sticks from trusty music stores.
 

dboomer

Senior Member
Of course he says that ... he wants you to patronize his store. 😁

If you actually bought from Amazon and not a 3rd party Amazon seller it would be enormously difficult for Amazon to buy counterfeit sticks. Amazon buys directly from manufacturers and not from out of the back of a car. Much easier for small stores to end up with counterfeits.
 

Odd-Arne Oseberg

Platinum Member
Everything spcialized, get it from a specialist store.

Even the companies themselves. If they didn't have their own online store before more and more are doing it every day.

The stuff I buy on Amazonis mainy books and maybe some small percussion things if there's no other way to buy it.
 

thebarak

Senior Member
I need Amazon's free Prime shipping because I am in Hawai'i, but you have to be careful to check if the stuff is coming from either an Amazon warehouse or legit musical equipment dealer.
 
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